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re: Judge reopens 70 year old case where 14 year old boy was executed

Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:33 pm to
Posted by LordSaintly
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:33 pm to
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How in the world would we know if he was innocent or not.

70 years later his sister says she was with him.
The confession can't be found but it was 1944 no computers


How in the hell can you determine quilt or innocence from this.


I don't know. It would be hard, I know. There just seems like there wasn't enough evidence to convict the kid. All it really takes is a judge to look at the court transcripts to determine if there was sufficient cause to render a guilty verdict.

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just some lawyers trying to make a name and a black family trying to get paid blaming whites for wrongfully killing a relative.



Very possible. But if it was my family, I would at LEAST want an apology.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:33 pm to
And there's the whole thing about executing a 14 year old..
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:34 pm to
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$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


Eh, I don't know. The sister has to be well into her 80s by now. She doesn't have much time left to enjoy the money.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:34 pm to
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And there's the whole thing about executing a 14 year old..


That too
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:34 pm to
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It's just now that anyone's doing something about it.


And how will they possibly verify this alibi? Why wasn't it done before?
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:40 pm to
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Why wasn't it done before?


Because it didn't fit the narrative in 1944 South Carolina.
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:43 pm to
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I don't know. It would be hard, I know. There just seems like there wasn't enough evidence to convict the kid. All it really takes is a judge to look at the court transcripts to determine if there was sufficient cause to render a guilty verdict.


Bet money that a fire or water damage has happened since 1944.

There is younger relatives that could benefit financially other than his sister.



Where will it stop will we now have to revisit ever case where a black person was incarcerated or executed since 1980, 1970, 1960, 1950 or earlier.

What is the criteria is it that records no longer exist and no an old witness all of a sudden decides to change story.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:47 pm to
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Because it didn't fit the narrative in 1944 South Carolina.


And the last 70 years? What credible evidence could there possibly be today that wasn't around sometime over the last 70 years?
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36417 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:54 pm to
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No and don't have to. It was 70 years ago. Why bring it up? Justice? Yeah right.


You'd think someone as paranoid about government oppression and conspiracies as yourself would give a shite if innocent people were being executed, but I guess that makes too much sense.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:56 pm to
Why don't we just go ahead and shut down the judicial system with regards to current and future crimes and just focus on fixing all of the wrongs that have been committed in our past?
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:56 pm to
I could understand if the records were still around, or some DNA, or a confession from someone else but what do they really have.

Nothing but someone changing their story 70 years later and people feeling back because it could have been racially motivated but no one really know.

White people today are so damn scarred of being labeled racist that we will say or do anything to appease the masses.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:58 pm to
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You'd think someone as paranoid about government oppression and conspiracies as yourself would give a shite if innocent people were being executed, but I guess that makes too much sense.


You would think someone would question the motives of a family member coming out 70 years later to give an alibi and just how verifiable that alibi could possibly be after all these years, but I guess that makes too much sense.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36417 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 5:03 pm to
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ou would think someone would question the motives of a family member coming out 70 years later to give an alibi and just how verifiable that alibi could possibly be after all these years, but I guess that makes too much sense.


Yall do realize she may have been trying to be heard for years and only now is getting any sort of audience? Do you know how long it takes to get the ball rolling in cases like this?
Posted by LateArrivalforLSU
Ascension Parish
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 5:08 pm to
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There are always going to be idiots who say idiotic things. But if the kid was innocent, the LEAST the state can do is apologize for wrongly executing a 14 year old.

Yeh, that makes a ton of sense and will change so many things

All this will do is make both sides sling mud at one another, with no resolution. It only inserts a wedge and divides even further. Let sleeping dogs lie.
Posted by camerad7
Member since Nov 2009
206 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 5:10 pm to
The ruling on the field will stand. Seems like they could find a better use of the judicial system's time and money.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 5:16 pm to
Does it take 70 years? How about 50 years? What's the cutoff? Sorry I'm highly skeptical that a sister of the perp has an alibi that has no prayer of being proven one way or the other.
This post was edited on 1/22/14 at 5:17 pm
Posted by WhoDats10
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 5:19 pm to
they should sue them dry
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 5:21 pm to
For what?
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 5:30 pm to
Well if we're gonna drag this one up let's drag all the state backed killings in the past 100 years.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98182 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 5:32 pm to
Fine by me.
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