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Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:41 am to imjustafatkid
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were they supposed to stop raising their children in a Christian environment because their son committed a sin? And turn down the opportunity to make money from a TV show because their children aren't perfect?
Of course not. However, having an understanding of how things happen and go wrong even in the most Christian and moral households, they might want to reserve judgement and not be so critical of others and their struggles.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:43 am to NoHoTiger
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they might want to reserve judgement and not be so critical of others and their struggles.
Having never heard or seen them do this, do you have links to quotes or proof of any sort?
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:43 am to Chad504boy
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wonder if josh's wife was informed of his past behaviors before she was married and populated and vaginally destroyed.
You're skimming too fast..already been discussed in the thread and she was told two years before marriage..was said in an interview..
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:44 am to BigEdLSU
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So just ignore scripture that says to use stringed instruments during worship?
Who said we can't used stringed instruments?
If you're referring to the Psalm 150, please use context and read again.
This is the problem when taking scripture and trying to interpret it yourself without context and a strict study. This is the danger of Protestantism.
The bible uses hyperbole and repetition to drive home a point many times in the OT.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:45 am to The Pirate King
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we're not talking about people in general. You said Protestants were putting off young people. Do you not agree young people relate more to a band than a 70 year old dressed up in a costume reading pre-written prayers in Gregorian chant?
Not if they can see past the BS
It's as if someone literally thought.."hey, let's see what kind of music kids are into these days"..."alternative/pop? Maybe some rap thrown in?" And then proceeded to sing the same songs and try to make it "cool" for the kids.
If the kids are smart, they'd know it's the same crap with a different tune. They should decide if they want to be exposed to religious ideals based on the actual message, not by a "cool beat" or a youth minister that makes funny jokes and always brings chips and cookies
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:46 am to The Pirate King
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You said Protestants were putting off young people. Do you not agree young people relate more to a band than a 70 year old dressed up in a costume reading pre-written prayers in Gregorian chant?
I guess I should have clarified that I believe fundamentalists and young earth creationists (all offspring of the terrible protestant movement) are chasing young people away because it is illogical and completely ridiculous. I mean, side hugs? WTF?
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:46 am to Moustache
What context and strict study are you referring to?
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:47 am to Salmon
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this is great
I'll just tell you right now, as a non religious person
this
I can agree with that. I believe the Vatican is entirely too materialistic. However, the Vatican doesn't have the money people think they have. They do have a lot of historical documents and art that they guard.
I guess the dress is simply dressing up to pay respect as the position of vicar of Christ. Nothing more. I'm not sure what explanation can be had for handling snakes.
This post was edited on 5/22/15 at 11:53 am
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:47 am to CENLALSUFAN
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You're skimming too fast.
i didn't skim at all. i skipped first 10 pages.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:47 am to The Pirate King
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Having never heard or seen them do this, do you have links to quotes or proof of any sort?
I already posted a quote and a link in this thread.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:48 am to Moustache
What do side hugs have to do with young earth creationism?
Not even a small faction of Protestants do the side-hug thing.
Not even a small faction of Protestants do the side-hug thing.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:48 am to Moustache
What do you mean who said it? You said it, or implied it actually.
Oh no, someone has a guitar (stringed instrument) in their band at church. Let's demonize them for it and just continue being the modern day Pharisees.
Oh no, someone has a guitar (stringed instrument) in their band at church. Let's demonize them for it and just continue being the modern day Pharisees.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:49 am to Chad504boy
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because i'm not profiting off of pretending to be something that my family isn't.
Whose pretending? They didn't mess up, their son did at 14 years old...apparently tried to make things right...nobody is perfect and if you watched the show like you say you do or paid attention since you said you were basically forced to watch it you would know that they say they aren't perfect..
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:51 am to BigEdLSU
It really is unbelievable to me how much of the ugly history of the Catholic Church he has blocked out. It's like he's been brainwashed since birth...
Most of my family are practicing catholic, FYI. I would tell them the same things I've said in this thread.
Most of my family are practicing catholic, FYI. I would tell them the same things I've said in this thread.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:52 am to Chad504boy
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i skipped first 10 pages.
Makes sense then
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:52 am to CENLALSUFAN
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Whose pretending?
they are
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They didn't mess up
yes they did
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apparently tried to make things right
hide suppress hide
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you would know that they say they aren't perfect..
never heard them talk about their perverted son molesting their children.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:54 am to Chad504boy
Blue Hog Report's Matt Campbell, who's giving some thought to challenging Republican Judge Stacy Zimmerman's strange and indefensible order of destruction of an official police record of the Duggar investigation, does some worthwhile math on evidence that the molestation case might be even creepier than a 14-year-old pawing another 14-year-old:
The police report, dated 12/7/06 says that he touched the girls "about 3.5 years ago." Taken at face value, that puts it in June of 2003. There are also references to March 2002 for some of the actions as well.
The court order from yesterday says that the victim who requested destruction of the police report is still a minor. To be a minor on May 21, 2015, the absolute latest she could have been born is May 22, 1997.
Which means, of course, that at least one of the girls was no older than six when this occurred, and could have been much younger.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:56 am to BigEdLSU
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What do you mean who said it? You said it, or implied it actually.
Oh no, someone has a guitar (stringed instrument) in their band at church. Let's demonize them for it and just continue being the modern day Pharisees.
No. The purpose and "main event" for lack of a better term for mass and liturgy is the Eucharist and the presence of Christ that the service brings. I don't care if the church has drums or stringed instruments, but I can tell you it shouldn't be the main performance. People wanting to go to church for themselves and to enjoy a "show" are the people who want the "rock concert" service. I've been to a baptist church a handful of times and each time the music was the main event. Same with the methodist church and even some Lutheran (catholic lite) churches.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:57 am to The Pirate King
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