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re: Joel Osteen took 4.4 million dollars in Covid relief

Posted on 12/17/20 at 11:58 am to
Posted by MadDogs
Member since Jul 2018
444 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 11:58 am to
I'm right there with with you Jonas. It may not be a "good look" for some businesses flush with cash to take advantage of the PPP money, but I would argue that any business that did NOT take the PPP money (and use it per the requirements) was negligent.
Posted by Jonas
Northshore
Member since Nov 2010
594 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 11:59 am to
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They DID have to certify that they didn't have other sources of funds on which to draw. For whatever that's worth.


I believe this is an inaccurate statement. Do you have a source for this statement?
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
12679 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 12:11 pm to
Maybe he will say I’d like to start with something funny, the government gave me $4.4 million than how do you like them apples suckers
Posted by scott8811
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
11360 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 12:19 pm to
I instantly lose respect for people who say they're Christian and post videos of that arse preaching
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
58906 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 12:26 pm to
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How can one miss the point of this so entirely. There's only two options on the rant. It's either full prosperity nonsense or its ascetic gospel.


There’s only two options regarding Christ. Either it’s on track or off track. It’s right or it’s wrong.
Posted by Thracken13
Aft Cargo Hold of Serenity
Member since Feb 2010
16051 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:02 pm to
you think that snakeoil salesman was gonna pay them out of his own pocket? lol that dude is just like all the other religious nimrods that fleece people of their money - tilton is the worst
Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2011
14512 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:08 pm to
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There’s only two options regarding Christ. Either it’s on track or off track. It’s right or it’s wrong.


My point was that you misunderstanding the point of a verse and the following misapplication of it doesn't make you right.
Posted by DevilDagNS
Member since Dec 2017
2683 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:22 pm to
I'm not religious by any stretch, but did he break the law? The real issue here is that the government forced the economy to shut down and then decided to give away money to compensate for said shutdown because we live in a clown world. He may be a piece of shite, but unless he broke the law, I don't fault him one bit. You throw money on the table don't be surprised when someone takes it. The issue was shutting down the economy in the first place creating this scenario, otherwise this wouldn't be having this conversation.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58099 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:24 pm to
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but I would argue that any business that did NOT take the PPP money (and use it per the requirements) was negligent.


Any billionaire who doesn't take advantage of a food bank is being negligent!

Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:35 pm to
I told yall this is the most corrupt thing to ever happen in America. And Trump voting morons just love to cheer for this corruption It will all come out soon enough all the conservatives who got government money.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:51 pm to
. What a clown.
Posted by MadDogs
Member since Jul 2018
444 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:53 pm to
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Any billionaire who doesn't take advantage of a food bank is being negligent!

Not really a fair comparison but I can see where you are coming from. One is a government subsidy that had no "need based" aspect to it, expressed or implied. This is where they really screwed up with the program in my opinion. It was done in such a rush that it opened the floodgates wide open.

I admittedly don't have much experience with food banks, but they are usually run by private charities and while they may not turn anyone away, there is a definite implication of it being for those that need it. Some may even require proof of the need.


Posted by LSU6262
Member since Jun 2008
7494 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:57 pm to
I don't like Osteen but this is silly to be upset about.

I'm not mad Trump only pays $15 or whatever it was in taxes.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 2:01 pm to
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I'm not mad Trump only pays $15 or whatever it was in taxes.


What?
Posted by MeridianDog
Home on the range
Member since Nov 2010
14230 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 2:13 pm to
No Jesus

I noticed a long long time ago that Joel is frightened to death to mention Jesus, and pretty much avoids using the Bible in his sermons.

Ya gott'a wonder why, or at least I do.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
15250 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 2:54 pm to
Churches and political campaigns should not be tax exempt. That's the biggest frick you to hard-working Americans.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
58906 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 3:46 pm to
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My point was that you misunderstanding the point of a verse and the following misapplication of it doesn't make you right.


Your point is missed because you failed at showing how it misses the mark.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
114002 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 4:01 pm to
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Do you know how many books he's written and sold?


Wow.. I just checked it out. Evidently he has written around 117 books.
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