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Job Relocation Advice
Posted on 9/7/15 at 10:37 am
Posted on 9/7/15 at 10:37 am
My management at work has made the request/offer for me to relocate from our BR office to our Houston office. I have a meeting set up this week to discuss details. I have a wife and two kids, oldest just turned 2.
My initial thought is that there needs to be some incentive for me to make the move. Quicker advancement opportunities within the company would be a plus. Also a raise of some sort would be ideal (from initial looking, cost of living is definitely higher in Houston).
I'm looking for advice on how to go about asking for a raise in a professional setting in this situation. Any other advice for how to approach this meeting?Thanks for any help!
My initial thought is that there needs to be some incentive for me to make the move. Quicker advancement opportunities within the company would be a plus. Also a raise of some sort would be ideal (from initial looking, cost of living is definitely higher in Houston).
I'm looking for advice on how to go about asking for a raise in a professional setting in this situation. Any other advice for how to approach this meeting?Thanks for any help!
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Posted on 9/7/15 at 10:41 am to Nof603
They better be offering you a raise to relocate to houston.
And for me to move there, it better be substancial. Plus moving me. (Moving aint cheap)
And for me to move there, it better be substancial. Plus moving me. (Moving aint cheap)
Posted on 9/7/15 at 10:44 am to Nof603
I would just tactfully say that you are open to the idea but are concerned about the financial ramifications....and then ask straight out whether there would be any pay differential. Your employer knows the game.
This post was edited on 9/7/15 at 7:58 pm
Posted on 9/7/15 at 10:44 am to Nof603
Well for starters, you need to know if it is a request or an offer?
Posted on 9/7/15 at 10:45 am to Nof603
Figure out what the cost of living difference is with actual research. Ask for a salary increase in that amount plus an additional 10-15%
Tell them they're paying moving expenses and any rental expenses you incur while searching for a home.
Tell them they're paying moving expenses and any rental expenses you incur while searching for a home.
Posted on 9/7/15 at 10:46 am to Nof603
Value of leaving BR has to be considered substantial
Posted on 9/7/15 at 10:47 am to ksayetiger
If your ultimate goal is advancement but your ideal location is in Baton Rouge, why not ask for both: the chance to advance back here eventually in exchange for working in Houston now.
But you better nail their asses down on deliverables and the timeframe for them.
But you better nail their asses down on deliverables and the timeframe for them.
Posted on 9/7/15 at 11:28 am to Nof603
quote:
from initial looking, cost of living is definitely higher in Houston
No income tax in Texas, if you use public schools it comes out cheaper.
Comparable salary in Houston, TX/Baton Rouge, LA
$52,386/$50,000
Price difference in Houston, TX
Groceries 19%less
Housing 21%more
Utilities 18%more
Transportation 4%less
Health Care 11%less
Posted on 9/7/15 at 11:31 am to TigerintheNO
Sellers market in Houston right now so be prepared to pay for good schools etc.
Posted on 9/7/15 at 11:38 am to Nof603
Why would anyone move for no pay increase or major opportunity for advancement???
I just moved to Houston. Depends on what you make, but cost of living can be comparable. Housing is more due to property tax. But the actual selling price is lower (from most decent sized LA towns). Insurance was a lot less for me. Income taxes help out a lot. If you make good money, this will save you a lot. Daycare is expensive, but that's compared to the town I lived in, probably similar to NOLA. Overall I like where I live.
Now if you are trying to live in the loop, yeah, it's going to cost you. But you can get a really nice house with a 40 minute drive downtown for the 250s.
I just moved to Houston. Depends on what you make, but cost of living can be comparable. Housing is more due to property tax. But the actual selling price is lower (from most decent sized LA towns). Insurance was a lot less for me. Income taxes help out a lot. If you make good money, this will save you a lot. Daycare is expensive, but that's compared to the town I lived in, probably similar to NOLA. Overall I like where I live.
Now if you are trying to live in the loop, yeah, it's going to cost you. But you can get a really nice house with a 40 minute drive downtown for the 250s.
Posted on 9/7/15 at 12:07 pm to KG6
Thanks for all the advice so far. I guess at this point it is a "request" because I haven't received any details about what kind of incentive there may be. I agree that making the move for no incentive (other than the obvious of better schools and no income tax) wouldn't make sense. It's a big thing to move a family away from home like that.
As one of the above said, management knows the game so they may already have something in mind, but I wanted to get a feeling of how this should be approached.
As one of the above said, management knows the game so they may already have something in mind, but I wanted to get a feeling of how this should be approached.
Posted on 9/7/15 at 12:16 pm to Nof603
Also to add: they will definitely cover relocation costs (movers, trip for house hunting), but I'm not sure if they plan to cover much more than that. I would probably target living in the Clearlake area of town.
Posted on 9/7/15 at 12:32 pm to Nof603
As a city Houston is much better than Baton Rouge, so that would be an incentive.
Typically, I would think this move would come with some sort of raise/opportunity for advancement, though:
Typically, I would think this move would come with some sort of raise/opportunity for advancement, though:
Posted on 9/7/15 at 12:35 pm to Nof603
Omg how could you possibly move from BR for a dead end loser place like Houston
Posted on 9/7/15 at 12:40 pm to KG6
quote:
Why would anyone move for no pay increase or major opportunity for advancement???
Go live in the TX panhandle a while and you'll see why.
The moving process is expensive.
Posted on 9/7/15 at 2:07 pm to shutterspeed
Texas - No state income tax. Better schools if you have kids. More jobs if you wish to move on. etc etc etc
There's your raise.
I moved from Ruston to Houston 20+ yrs ago and never looked back, we are in North/East DFW now and love it.
There's your raise.
I moved from Ruston to Houston 20+ yrs ago and never looked back, we are in North/East DFW now and love it.
Posted on 9/7/15 at 2:19 pm to Nof603
My suggestion as I am in the middle of relocating across the country for work:
-Get your wife on board...you don't want to get excited about the opportunity, then get a lukewarm/negative reception from her.
-Find out as much as you can about the new position, make sure it is a net positive. If you have never been there, see if you can go out and visit on their dime. Meet your potential coworkers.
-Research everything...cost of living calculators, paycheck estimators, housing. Start now...again, make sure you are comfortable.
-Personally, I wouldn't accept voluntary relocation without a raise after cost of living increases are factored in. Get a salary range before you get too deep in the process...assume your potential offer will be at the lower end and see if that still works.
-Find out what their policy is for relocation reimbursement...make sure it covers exactly what you need it to and if it doesn't negotiate it in. If they aren't offering it, no deal...$10k minimum to start, you shouldn't be out of pocket for moving in a situation like this. This includes house hunting trips.
-Be non-committal about timeframes to start...feel them out and see what they are looking for, be prepared to discuss what you and your family need. Negotiate this last, after compensation. Bringing fixed start dates to the negotiation takes away leverage.
-Get your wife on board...you don't want to get excited about the opportunity, then get a lukewarm/negative reception from her.
-Find out as much as you can about the new position, make sure it is a net positive. If you have never been there, see if you can go out and visit on their dime. Meet your potential coworkers.
-Research everything...cost of living calculators, paycheck estimators, housing. Start now...again, make sure you are comfortable.
-Personally, I wouldn't accept voluntary relocation without a raise after cost of living increases are factored in. Get a salary range before you get too deep in the process...assume your potential offer will be at the lower end and see if that still works.
-Find out what their policy is for relocation reimbursement...make sure it covers exactly what you need it to and if it doesn't negotiate it in. If they aren't offering it, no deal...$10k minimum to start, you shouldn't be out of pocket for moving in a situation like this. This includes house hunting trips.
-Be non-committal about timeframes to start...feel them out and see what they are looking for, be prepared to discuss what you and your family need. Negotiate this last, after compensation. Bringing fixed start dates to the negotiation takes away leverage.
Posted on 9/7/15 at 2:54 pm to TigerintheNO
quote:
Comparable salary in Houston, TX/Baton Rouge, LA $52,386/$50,000 Price difference in Houston, TX Groceries 19%less Housing 21%more Utilities 18%more Transportation 4%less Health Care 11%less
I don't know if you commute into BR, but I think your costs will be more in the New New Mexico than in BR. Plus factor in the wear and tear on your vehicles, toll tags, automobile tax, fuel. etc., plus the great amount of time you will be spending in that vehicle, which will more than likely be alot
Posted on 9/7/15 at 4:56 pm to Nof603
Be noncommittal until you find out what is going on.
The BR office may have to cut staff and they are offering you a job in Houston.
The Houston office may need someone qualified and you fit the criteria.
In other words, you may have no choice in this matter. It's either move or be fired.
Or they really need you in Houston but do not want to have to give you a big pay raise to get you over there.
FYI: The city of Houston does not have zoning. The City codes do not address land use.
P.S. Do you go to many LSU home games?
The BR office may have to cut staff and they are offering you a job in Houston.
The Houston office may need someone qualified and you fit the criteria.
In other words, you may have no choice in this matter. It's either move or be fired.
Or they really need you in Houston but do not want to have to give you a big pay raise to get you over there.
FYI: The city of Houston does not have zoning. The City codes do not address land use.
P.S. Do you go to many LSU home games?
This post was edited on 9/7/15 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 9/7/15 at 5:14 pm to The Torch
quote:
Better schools if you have kids.
In the suburbs
If you live inside the loop chances are you'll be paying private school just like Louisiana
More than likely you'll live outside the city and commute an hour each way
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