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re: Jessica Chambers jury says Not Guilty, but 7 say Guilty on Poll. Chaos in the courtroom

Posted on 10/16/17 at 10:27 pm to
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 10/16/17 at 10:27 pm to
Is the defendant's name "Eric?"

She told the ER personnel that "Eric" set her on fire.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 10/16/17 at 11:14 pm to
I'll just repost what I said on that other thread like a week ago...

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The jury is mixed on racial lines. Therefore I guarantee there is zero percent chance they all vote to convict. 

Also so many municipal departments are corrupt around there that the case is already fricked up. 

I'll bet the farm this guy walks.


Who do I talk to to redeem my reward?

frick the South. frick this earth. This poor girl picked the wrong part of this country to mess around with the wrong arse people.

fricking shame.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 10/16/17 at 11:17 pm to
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Maybe I'm missing something here, but why did they read the verdict as "not guilty" but then declare a mistrial?
Why was it recorded as "not guilty" if it wasn't?
Did the jury not know what it takes to determine a verdict?

This doesn't inspire much confidence in a jury trial. I've always said that I'm going for a bench trial if I'm ever charged.

sounds like the jury foreman signaled they came up with a verdict... but another juror said it wasn't unanimous... so they were sent back

came back again... actually read the not guilty verdict in court... then the judge polled the jury where it actually turned out to be 7-5 in favor of guilty (certainly not unanimous)

judge sent them back again... with new instructions which was basically just the definition of unanimous

they came back later deadlocked

I'm assuming the jury was trying to tell the judge we're deadlocked but the foreperson was dumb on all things legal and thought a deadlocked jury was the same as a not guilty verdict
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
141180 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 11:20 pm to
quote:

I'll just repost what I said on that other thread like a week ago...

quote:

The jury is mixed on racial lines. Therefore I guarantee there is zero percent chance they all vote to convict. 

Also so many municipal departments are corrupt around there that the case is already fricked up. 

I'll bet the farm this guy walks.


Who do I talk to to redeem my reward?

frick the South. frick this earth. This poor girl picked the wrong part of this country to mess around with the wrong arse people.

fricking shame.


the prosecutor has apparently already said they plan on re-trying this case

plus he has another murder case hanging over his head in Monroe, La.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
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Posted on 10/16/17 at 11:28 pm to
White gurls lives matter
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
20334 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:26 am to
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the prosecutor has apparently already said they plan on re-trying this case


Maybe if the judge can get the trial moved to North Dakota or something, they'll get a guilty verdict. Or some well to do area. But if it's a mixed jury from middle to low income areas in Louisiana, Miss, Alabama, Arkansas, or Georgia there is 0% chance for a conviction.

Absolutely none.

This poor girl will get no justice but this backwards-arse county who put this case together has done nothing to help her. Quinton Tellis could be covered in the girls blood and holding a gas can. If he tells this jury "I didn't do it", half of them will say "Well that's good enough for me. Not guilty!"
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58132 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:28 am to
Based on what little I've read of this, it doesn't sound like there is much evidence to convict him in this case. Do you see it different?

He will get his in the trial for the La murder.
Posted by Giantkiller
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Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:34 am to
quote:


Based on what little I've read of this, it doesn't sound like there is much evidence to convict him in this case. Do you see it different?


I think a good bit of it was circumstantial. But it's not like they have real brains running the police/courts over there. The slackjaws that run the show were probably like "We gots us here a CLUE!" Then they probably stepped all over everything like Barney Fife.

Looks like it's up to Monroe to deliver. But I don't know if I have any real confidence there either.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56306 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:54 am to
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Looks like it's up to Monroe to deliver. But I don't know if I have any real confidence there either.

Thats a lot of pressure on Monroe to count to 12.

I know this seems kinda silly, but could we come up with a better form than the yellow piece of legal paper? Maybe some check marks on how one voted?
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 10:08 am to
This may have been asked already. But why the hell is the judge polling jurors by name on a live feed?.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58132 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 10:32 am to
Oh I have to agree for sure. There were some real idiots involved with this in investigation and prosecution. Kind of wish the feds could have been involved from step one.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 10:36 am to
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hats a lot of pressure on Monroe to count to 12

I think that might only be for a capital case in the state of Louisiana. If it ain't capital, I'm pretty sure 10 will do here.

They won't even have to take off their shoes.

EDIT: Yep. The Louisiana Constitution says 10.
In Article 1, Section 17:

A criminal case in which the punishment may be capital shall be tried before a jury of twelve persons, all of whom must concur to render a verdict. A case in which the punishment is necessarily confinement at hard labor shall be tried before a jury of twelve persons, ten of whom must concur to render a verdict.
This post was edited on 10/17/17 at 10:46 am
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56306 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 10:44 am to
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They won't even have to take off their shoes.


You are correct, but I would imagine 1/2 of the jurors wear their house slippers to the trial.
Posted by bayourougebengal
Member since Mar 2008
7193 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 10:52 am to
If you're innocent, you want a trial by judge. Guilty, trial by jury.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
66944 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 10:56 am to
quote:

Looks like it's up to Monroe to deliver. But I don't know if I have any real confidence there either.


The DA might offer that POS probation if he played football.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11484 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 11:58 am to
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Is the defendant's name "Eric?"

She told the ER personnel that "Eric" set her on fire.


This was confusing to me because the autopsy report says she was incapable of speaking clearly. Yet, we are all supposed to be certain she said Eric.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83937 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 12:08 pm to
More than one witness testified that she said "Eric" I think. An autopsy report really can't refute that because it's just an opinion.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79150 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 12:39 pm to
quote:

This poor girl will get no justice but this backwards-arse county who put this case together has done nothing to help her. Quinton Tellis could be covered in the girls blood and holding a gas can. If he tells this jury "I didn't do it", half of them will say "Well that's good enough for me. Not guilty!"


He will fry in Louisiana for the foreign exchange student's brutal murder. There is legit evidence in that case.

For the MS case, he is still afforded a fair trial and he's just the beneficiary of dumb jurors and a terribly assembled case by the prosecution's team. Outside of the cell phone triangulation and his multiple different stories he told investigators, they didn't have much to go on.
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