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re: Is there water located underneath the earths crust?

Posted on 5/15/16 at 11:05 pm to
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 11:05 pm to
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The oceans probably were not as deep at that time. Mountains grow over time too so they were not has high either. The earth was most likely one land mass at this time (pangea).

Dude...
Posted by thibodauxtigah
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 11:27 pm to
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There is no God



Posted by vettegc
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 11:30 pm to
LINK

Parícutin (or Volcán de Parícutin, also accented Paricutín) is a dormant scoria-cone volcano located in the Mexican state of Michoacán, near the city of Uruapan and about 322 km west of Mexico City. The volcano surged suddenly from the cornfield of local farmer Dionisio Pulido in 1943, attracting both popular and scientific attention. This eruption presented the first occasion for modern science to document the full life cycle of an eruption of this type. During the 9-year life span of Parícutin, scientists sketched and mapped it, took samples as well as thousands of photographs of this volcano. By 1952, the volcano left a 424 meter high cone and significantly damaged a 233 km2 area with the ejection of stone, ash and lava.

Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 1:17 am to
Yes, there was water under the crust. It broke thru, causing rapid landshifts and and overabundance of liquid inserted into the water cycle.

All of which explains a lot:

Separation of Pangaea
ongoing plate tectonics
huge caches of fossils washed up together
the grand canyon, and other canyons in arid climates
Neolithic religion (Göbekli Tepe ruins), languages, farming techniques, human Y chromosome of Anglos all originating from Turkey (site of Noahs landing)
Posted by The First Cut
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 5:55 am to
you were the one making a definitive statement. You enlighten us as to how you know that none of this happened.
Posted by UKWildcatsFAN
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 8:57 am to
I would agree with that
Posted by Cruiserhog
Little Rock
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 6:25 pm to
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you were the one making a definitive statement. You enlighten us as to how you know that none of this happened.


You posted I was ignorant on the subject and now you scurry back to ole 'well you tell us'. Typical

Your damn right Im definitive...Im not a dumbass that believes in Sunday school fairy tales, I might have when I was seven and then kids start using their brains unlike some on here. I know what the Biblical global flood myth is borrowed from and I know the physics of it are impossible not only to have happened but also in explaining how things are today.

There is no evidence for it to have happened, its mathmatically and physically impossible for the amount of water required, the latent heat of water and the amount of rain that fell would have raised the temperature of the earth to unlivable conditions. Genetic lineages prove it didnt happen and The Chinese are still around even though they should have been wiped out yet they have the oldest known record keeping civilization.



There are impact craters on the Earth from 3 billion years ago that left evidence for us to find, you dont think a global flood would leave sedimentary and fossil evidence, genetic bottleneck repercussions if it happened.
Posted by vettegc
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 12:26 am to
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There is no evidence for it to have happened, its mathmatically and physically impossible for the amount of water required, the latent heat of water and the amount of rain that fell would have raised the temperature of the earth to unlivable conditions. Genetic lineages prove it didnt happen and The Chinese are still around even though they should have been wiped out yet they have the oldest known record keeping civilization.


I see you are still stuck on the chinese thing yet I have already proved you wrong about them not having a flood legend. In fact they have several. How about you give some answers to the items below.

FROM SCIENCE....... [45 reasons]

(13) There is a worldwide tradition among natives of a global flood.

(14) According to current archaeological evidence, civilization appears to have originated in the Ararat/Babylon region.

(15) The genealogical records of many of the European kings can be traced back to Japheth, son of Noah.

(16) An analysis of population growth statistics confirms that there was zero population at the estimated time of the end of the flood. This indicates the global demise of humans by Noah's flood.

(17) Human palaeontological evidence exists even in the earliest geologic 'ages' (eg human footprints in Cambrian, Carboniferous, and Cretaceous rocks). If the layers of rock were laid down by a global flood and then interpreted as evolutionary long-ages, human remains and artefacts would appear to be in such positions.

(18) The most ancient human artefacts date to the post-flood era. This indicates that the earlier hardware could have been buried beyond reach by a huge flood.

(19) Calculations have shown that there is nearly the same amount of organic material present today, worldwide, as there would have been if all the fossils were still alive (Morris p:685). This indicates the demise of all living things in a single global event.

(20) Palaeontological evidence indicates that the early earth had a warm/humid climate. This is consistent with the destruction of the old atmosphere by the processes of a global flood as described in Genesis.

(21) The glacial period started very quickly. This would require a cataclysmic event such as a global flood to trigger such a rapid climatic change.

(22) Similar geologic formations exist in rocks of all ages (eg rifts, folds, faults, thrusts, etc.). These can just as easily be explained as being created in the same cataclysmic global event.

(23) Studies show that much of the world's folded beds of sediment have no compression fractures, indicating that they were contorted while they were still wet and soft. For this to occur on a global scale, and on sediment thousands of metres thick, it would have required a catastrophic global flood.

(24) Rocks of different geologic 'ages' have similar physical features indicating that they could have been created by a single worldwide event - such as a global flood.

Posted by vettegc
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 12:27 am to
(25) There is an absence of physical evidence that indicates a time change between rocks of 'successive ages'. Sedimentary rock layers worldwide appear to have been laid down very quickly, as by a global flood.

(26) Globally, there is an almost complete absence of any evidence of animal and plant root activity within the tiny layers of sediment. Slowly deposited layers should show this activity, flood deposits wouldn't.

(27) All types of rocks (eg limestone, shale, granite, etc) occur in all geologic 'ages'. This indicates a common formation on a global scale - the situation that would have been created by the mixing of sediment in a global flood.

(28) Many geological processes have a recent geological date. If the long-age evolutionary time scale is ignored, these processes would have occurred in the very recent past - ie. as a result of the flood cataclysm.

(29) Recent volcanic rocks are distributed widely. (see last point above)

(30) The uplift of the major mountain ranges are relatively young, based on evolutionary chronology. If the long-age evolutionary time scale is ignored, these processes would have occurred in the very recent past - ie as a result of the flood cataclysm.

(31) There is a lack of correlation between radiometric 'ages' and assumed palaeontological 'ages' (Morris p:686). A global flood could easily create an illusion of geologic 'ages'. The consequent conflict between dating methods confirms the illusion.

(32) Fossil 'graveyards' are found worldwide, and in rocks of all 'ages'. Only a catastrophic global flood could achieve this.

(33) The burial of fossil deposits worldwide had to have occurred in a catastrophic event. Only massive flooding could bury in such a fashion.

(34) Marine fossils can be found on the crests of mountains. Apart from mountain uplifting, this can also be explained as the marine animals being washed there and then buried. A global flood could do this.

(35) There is a worldwide distribution of most of the fossil types, indicating transportation on a global scale by a global flood.

(36) Fossils from different 'ages' are often found mixed. This indicates a huge mixing of animal bones that is not consistent with a local flood.

(37) Worldwide, fossils from different 'ages' are often found in the wrong order. This indicates a global mixing of fossils as a consequence of a global flood.

(38) Supposed evolutionary fossil sequences often parallel the ecological zonation that occurs today (Morris p:686). If a global flood mixed organisms from different areas, it would create the illusion of a fossil sequence over time.

(39) Dinosaurs and many other prehistoric creatures died out suddenly. A catastrophe such as a global flood could have produced this result.

(40) Polystrate fossils (viz. vertical fossil tree trunks) that are found worldwide indicate turbulent or rapid deposition. A global flood would be required to do this worldwide.

(41) Polystrate fossils also form when water-logged timber sinks in a large body of water. A year long global flood could produce worldwide polystrate fossils formed in this way.

(42) Animal tracks and other ephemeral markings (ripple-marks and raindrop imprints) have been preserved throughout the geological column. Rapid covering of these markings is required for this preservation worldwide - ie. by a global flood.

(43) Meteorites are basically absent from the geologic column. With the large number of meteorites hitting the earth each year, they should be very plentiful throughout the sedimentary rocks - unless much of the world's sedimentary rocks were laid down in one year.

(44) Sedimentary rocks contain fossil ripple-marks and raindrop imprints, but no hail imprints. A global flood (with associated rain), that was not caused by storms would not leave hail imprint marks.

(45) Some desert areas show evidence of 'recent' water bodies. Water from a recent global flood would remain in large pools (bodies of water) for some time before evaporating.

(46) There is evidence of a recent drastic rise in sea level. A global flood could easily have created this feature.

(47) Raised shorelines are found worldwide indicating a time when the world had a different sea level. A consistent interpretation of this is that a global flood altered the levels of the oceans and seas.

(48) Mountain-high water level marks found throughout the world are consistent with the recession of a global flood.

(49) River terraces are found worldwide. (Morris p:685)

(50) There is a universal occurrence of rivers in valleys too large for the present stream. Slow erosion over millions of years could not have created these valleys as the mountains would have eroded, keeping pace with the valley erosion. The drainage of global floodwaters from the land surface could easily create such wide valleys in a short period of time.

(51) Only modern sediments show any evidence of surface drainage systems. If the majority of the world's sedimentary rocks were laid down by a global flood there would not be any sign of drainage erosion except for the top layers eroded during the recession of the flood waters off the land.

(52) Hydrologic evidence points to the rapid deposition of sedimentary rock layers. Therefore, the thousand's of metres of sediment must have been deposited by a catastrophic global flood.

(53) Hydrologic evidence points to the world's sedimentary rocks being deposited in one continuous episode. All the layers could have been laid down by a single event, such as a global flood.

(54) Hydrologic experiments show that flowing sediment automatically settles out in distinct layers. Therefore, sedimentary rock layers can be just as easily explained as flood debris, as slow deposition.

(55) There is a worldwide occurrence of deep alluvial deposits and sedimentary rocks consistent with a huge global flood.

(56) There is a near-random deposition of formational sequences. (Morris p:685)

(57) Nowhere in the world is it possible to see the complete geologic column as a single structure. It is always found in bits and pieces, and mostly with pieces missing. Globally, a worldwide flood could create the illusion of a geologic column.

(58) The oldest organisms still alive on Earth today, the Californian Redwoods, Sequoias and Bristlecone Pines, are around 3,000-4,000 years old. Nothing is older that the date of Noah's flood.

Posted by Cruiserhog
Little Rock
Member since Apr 2008
10460 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 12:44 am to
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I see you are still stuck on the chinese thing yet I have already proved you wrong about them not having a flood legend. In fact they have several. How about you give some answers to the items below.


first off vette..I dont care about 'myths'...the Chinese have been putting pen to paper for nearly 10000 years, we know they never suffered from some fictious global, because they have history.

DUDE
everything you posted is absolute bullshite.

Japheth son of Noah, you moron if the flood actually happened everyone on Earth would have his genetic lineage. LOL fricking facepalm.

16)LOL WTF where did this come from.

The only genetic bottleneck that almost killed off humanity was the Toba supervolcano eruption 18k years ago

17 please you really cant be this stupid...where are the rabbit fossils with human fossils with the dinosaur fossils with the Kangaroo fossils, you would expect mixing of fossils yet you will never find a more developed animal beneath a less developed animal in the fossil record

Please go to talk origins.com and you can actually see the evidence that debunks everything you just posted. Good lord read a book.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:27 pm to
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the Chinese have been putting pen to paper for nearly 10000 years

You're an idiot
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Good lord read a book.

I read the IPCC report on global warming. Guess what? Their guesses on our climate future is just as good as the guesses of origins. com in relation to your claims of "Chinese putting pen to paper for 10,000 years"

Really? Pen to paper? Not just random cave drawings? Stephen Houston debunked your Chinese nonsense in 2004

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