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Posted on 3/1/16 at 5:17 pm to Menji
I make enough for my wife to stay home with the kids. We still choose daycare. We really want to do our part to artificially raise the cost of goods as a result of more demand coming from two income families thus screwing over the single income families. But also because our sons learn from licensed teachers that bring a lesson plan to the table, and they get the socialization skills they need to become valuable members to society. Not to mention helping them to become more independent and less reliant on mommy, while still getting tons of attention from both me and her outside of school.
I'm sure sitting in front of the TV while your wife watches real housewives for 8 hours a day will serve yours well.
Later guys. Going to pick up my little social butterfly now.
I'm sure sitting in front of the TV while your wife watches real housewives for 8 hours a day will serve yours well.
Later guys. Going to pick up my little social butterfly now.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 5:18 pm to lsunurse
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You know who else stays at home with their kids? Welfare queens popping babies out as fast as they can, sitting on their asses eating Cheetos and watching Judge Judy reruns. You gonna try and tell me those women are better parents because they don't have children in daycare as well?
Nope, they're even worse. One person's bad parenting doesn't excuse another's not-as-bad parenting. Nice strawman attempt, though.
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Not every couple can realistically have a parent stay home with the kids. It's nothing about them being "selfish" and more about them wanting their child to have a better life than they did. And for some families....that means both parents work outside the home. Nothing wrong with that.
Why not? Again, if not...why'd they have kids to start with?
Posted on 3/1/16 at 5:19 pm to Menji
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what is more important in life than spending time with one's children, especially in their formative years?
I grew up poor and my dad worked while my mom stayed home. You know what would have been really nice growing up? Not being so fricking poor. As a kid I can say I would have much rather both my parents work and having more money. Maybe my mom could have worked some place that provided her with health and dental insurance(my dad's job provided neither for us) so we didn't have to go without it growing up. Thankfully none of us kids got seriously sick.
People who go on and on about how "nothing is more important than a parent staying home with their child while they are young" clearly did not grow up poor.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 5:20 pm to AUjim
Why don't you just keep your kid there for the 2 weeks your paying for it?
Posted on 3/1/16 at 5:21 pm to Menji
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Hardly a data set large enough to yield any meaningful conclusions
It's a bigger set than the one you provided. Looks like day care may be the way to go if you're any indication.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 5:25 pm to Menji
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Hardly a data set large enough to yield any meaningful conclusions, though
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I'd like to see the numbers on outcomes nationally, so maybe I'll look that up later
So you have no interaction with daycare, and no data supporting your opinion? Neat.
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Also, I suspect that daycares back then (whenever that was) are quite different than they are today.
So you have no interaction with daycare, and no data supporting your opinion? Neat.
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just an observation
Of something with which you have no experience or interaction? Neat.
I don't even think you'd qualify to teach at my kids' daycare. Good luck to your little ones. I hope your wife is smarter than you appear to be.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 5:26 pm to GRTiger
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We really want to do our part to artificially raise the cost of goods as a result of more demand coming from two income families thus screwing over the single income families.
Heh. Well-played.
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But also because our sons learn from licensed teachers that bring a lesson plan to the table, and they get the socialization skills they need to become valuable members to society.
Shrug. I've met and/or dated a lot of those. Not impressed, almost across the board. Quite the opposite, usually. If it's a truly elite daycare where they can afford to pay actual experts, then maybe that's different. Also, there's a lot of good homeschooling curriculum out there. Just sayin'. The socialization is a good point, but my take is that it can be had in much more controlled circumstances for a lot less money, and not at the expense of so much family time.
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I'm sure sitting in front of the TV while your wife watches real housewives for 8 hours a day will serve yours well.
Heh. Gross. Certainly not, and not what I'm advocating at all. Someone like that (again) shouldn't have kids.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 5:39 pm to Menji
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That's fair. To be clear, it was a legitimate question followed by an inherent negative assumption. I'm sure it doesn't apply in all cases, but it applies way more than not, from what I've seen.
Well for one my wife and I are both educated professionals with full time careers. We live in a rented 1 BR apt in a very expensive city. It's not financially feasible for us to survive on one income- in other words the loss of income from one of us quitting outweighs daycare costs as expensive as they are. Add in that we are paying down student loan debt from graduate school, and there's not a lot left over. We could stall paying off our debts, but that would as you said 'just kick the can down the road' and further stall our purchasing property of our own. That will become feasible once the loans are paid off, given both of our career trajectories.
I wouldn't expect you to understand any of that, though. It seems this scenario didn't occur to you. It takes leaving your little bubble you live in and getting out in the world, possibly getting educated along the way, and a big boy job. Maybe one day you will do those things and get a bigger understanding of the world. I doubt it. Enjoy the ignorance.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 6:41 pm to AUjim
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Is there a bigger racket than daycare?
College textbook sales/buybacks
Posted on 3/1/16 at 6:42 pm to AUjim
you signed a contract. get back to us after you read it.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 6:45 pm to AUjim
I'm sure they're just arbitrarily saying you have to pay, and it totally isn't in the contract you signed. 
Posted on 3/1/16 at 6:57 pm to lsunurse
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Not every couple can realistically have a parent stay home with the kids. It's nothing about them being "selfish" and more about them wanting their child to have a better life than they did. And for some families....that means both parents work outside the home. Nothing wrong with that.
You have to do what is best in your opinion for your kids, whether it is going to day care or staying at home. My kids mom stayed at home, my kids never spent a moment in daycare, it was a decision we made before we had them and we agreed to make it work on our income. Other parents in the neighborhood would always say they wished they could do the same, but both needed to work. They probably did, they usually had 2 late model cars while we had a 15 year old Volvo, and a old minivan. They would rent a house on the beach or go to Crested Butte, we went tent camping in a state park. We had no cable, and one TV, so we checked out books and read to the kids a lot. Ironically what we designed as a better life for our kids turned out to be one just like we had as kids.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 6:58 pm to AUjim
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Is there a bigger racket than daycare???
Yes.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 6:59 pm to AUjim
Write them back and sign it with your butt hole, right after you take a nasty arse taco bell binge drinking dump.
If I got a note for that, I wouldn't even pay them for the week that I owe them. frick THEM!!
I mean seriously, how hard is it to watch some kids? Just put them together and they keep themselves busy most 80% of the time.
If I got a note for that, I wouldn't even pay them for the week that I owe them. frick THEM!!
I mean seriously, how hard is it to watch some kids? Just put them together and they keep themselves busy most 80% of the time.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 7:05 pm to Bossier2323
quote:God damn, wtf is wrong with PARENTS? Unless you just work all the damn time, why can't you parents teach your kids shite yourself? Why rely on others to teach them? I never understood on waiting until school starts to teach your kids math and reading.
After seeing how much my kids learn,
Posted on 3/1/16 at 7:18 pm to Menji
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Thank y'all for raising someone who won't be a worthless drain on the rest of us.
Given the cost of a "decent" daycare, why would anyone who isn't a single parent go with this option? If you're not making enough money to have one person stay at home, you need to reevaluate your priorities. Spend less on nonsense consumer goods. Trade money for time with your child who needs you. Hell, figure out a way to have one parent work from home, or start a business of their own so they can take their child to work (what my mom did).
Why'd y'all daycare people even have kids, anyway? Just to have some generally underqualified people raise them with a bunch of other little poorly parented monsters polluting their heads? Public schools are bad enough...do they really need an extra few years of feeling abandoned in addition? Just because *you* want to "have it all" and theoretically can doesn't mean there's not a cost. You're just kicking it down the road onto your child, who didn't get a vote in the matter.
Shame on you.
So let me get this straight...
You are advocating that one parent should make enough money so the other parent can stay home. Correct?
Yet you state your deadbeat father didn't make enough money which forced your mom to sell her goods all while dragging your snot dripping self to work everyday.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 7:19 pm to AUjim
If a person can afford to send their child to daycare, they can also afford to send their kid to LSU. That shite adds up quickly.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 7:49 pm to gamecocks22
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Insurance
You realize the profit margin for insurance companies is typically less than 3%?
Posted on 3/1/16 at 8:04 pm to Menji
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Good deal. Hardly a data set large enough to yield any meaningful conclusions, though.
Did daycare and latch key. I turned out fine.
When I was really young, grandma was the baby sitter, then she died.
My mom was a teacher, brother and I didn't go to school with her, but the youngest went k-5 at the school she worked at. When I was in elementary school, she worked at a middle school, by the time I was in middle school, she was home before we were because she was working at an elementary.
And of course she was off during the summer.
This post was edited on 3/1/16 at 8:09 pm
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