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re: Is disability the new retirement?

Posted on 7/26/14 at 7:11 pm to
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 7:11 pm to
I know a teacher who lost her job and couldn't catch on anywhere else. Not surprising either, she has negative attitude about damn near everything, a smoker's rasp from a lifetime of sucking on cancer sticks, etc.

She was able to qualify for disability due to lung problems (shocker). So now she suns herself at the pool all day. She wasn't disabled enough (and didn't think she was disabled enough) to think that she couldn't teach again, she *did* search for almost two years before giving up.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68450 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 7:16 pm to
I just don't see why people would want to fake an injury or illness to retire or collect a small paycheck just to skate by.
Posted by bhamtbone
North, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
545 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 7:20 pm to
In their "logic", it's better than being homeless. Some actually think the working men are suckers. I guess they're right in some ways.
Posted by WoWyHi
Member since Jul 2009
23339 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 7:22 pm to
quote:

A guy that worked for my uncle for years just died from Alpha-1 and fought and fought to get disability so he could maybe quit work to fight his disease and was denied at every turn.


That's incredibly sad.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167213 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 7:25 pm to
He was denied because he was still working. He would have had to quit and have no income in order to file again in order to maybe qualify. This is despite only having like 20% lung capacity confirmed by the best Alpha-1 doctors in Houston.
Posted by FloridaMike
Member since Dec 2012
1524 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 7:27 pm to
quote:

There is a kid in my gym who I would call "special". Full disability. Squats 500+ & dunks a basketball.
Retard strength brah
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15092 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 8:12 pm to
quote:

I just don't see why people would want to fake an injury or illness to retire or collect a small paycheck just to skate by.


It frees up their day so they can ride around looking for scrap metal
Posted by blackmouth
God's Country
Member since May 2014
387 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 8:28 pm to
Why do you think 97% of lawyer tv ads are about SS/ SSI ? Trolls chase money and obarry soetero blew up the dam!
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 8:43 pm to
I maybe forced into this soon due to health issues. Believe me I would much rather have my health back and not be in this position. I am very fearful that I won't see my kids graduate. I was hoping with medication to improve but that doesn't look likely now. People can call me what they want to but I have worked like a dog for the last thirty years I am still working but not sure how much longer I can make it.
Posted by bhamtbone
North, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
545 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:11 pm to
You put in 30 years and now your health threatens your earning. THIS is what the program is for. Godspeed.
This post was edited on 7/26/14 at 9:13 pm
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76270 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:14 pm to
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Yep, thank Obama

I thank Obama the same as I thank his predecessors since none of them did anything about it either.
Posted by bhamtbone
North, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
545 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:17 pm to
Thank Lyndon Johnson.
Posted by wfeliciana
Member since Oct 2013
4504 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:28 pm to
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How is it so easy for people to start collecting disability, besides lawyers and judges scratching each other's backs?



You don't believe all the examples on this thread do you? I have no idea about state workman's comp, but SSI is difficult to get. Kids don't get it for ADHD. Mental disability is even harder to prove. People love to repeat what they hear 3rd hand.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167213 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:30 pm to
quote:

I maybe forced into this soon due to health issues. Believe me I would much rather have my health back and not be in this position. I am very fearful that I won't see my kids graduate. I was hoping with medication to improve but that doesn't look likely now. People can call me what they want to but I have worked like a dog for the last thirty years I am still working but not sure how much longer I can make it.




I have zero problems with it helping people that actually need it and that have paid into the system.
Posted by Traffic Circle
Down the Rabbit Hole
Member since Nov 2013
4243 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:31 pm to
There is private disability insurance.

There is Social Security disability insurance that is also paid for by paying into Social Security.

And then their is a Medicaid type of disability that I think a disabled person may get even if they didn't pay into the system.

Which one are you talking about?
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:38 pm to
quote:

have zero problems with it helping people that actually need it and that have paid into the system.





I wish everyone thought like you and Bhamtbone but I had a poster on the poli-board call me all sorts of vile names the other day when this subject came up and I haven't even signed up yet.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119100 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:41 pm to
quote:

You don't believe all the examples on this thread do you?


I've seen enough where I live to believe 1/2 the people who are on disability do not really need to be. Lots of corruption in all government circles.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167213 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:44 pm to
Ignore them

I have no problems with any welfare programs as long as they are used to help those in need and aren't abused. Food stamps, WIC, unemployment, etc are all great ideas to help people through temporary life issues. As a society we should help each other when others are in need but sadly this isn't how it is and like everything else the bad ones ruin it for the ones that need it.

This is why so many have a bad taste about it and get upset with the slightest mention of it. Everyone's situation is different and if I ever got in the situation where I needed it, I would be grateful it was there as an option, but I would do everything I could to make it a temporary solution unless I was disabled like you.

Not everyone thinks like you or I do about it and now days it's a tool to buy votes and a lifestyle for too many. It needs revamping, but it's too far gone now for that.

TL;DR Do what you gotta do. You, unlike many, deserve it.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76270 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:48 pm to
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I wish everyone thought like you and Bhamtbone but I had a poster on the poli-board call me all sorts of vile names the other day when this subject came up and I haven't even signed up yet.

Its always easy for them to stand on rigid ideology when they aren't personally affected.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76270 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:50 pm to
quote:

but SSI is difficult to get. Kids don't get it for ADHD. Mental disability is even harder to prove. People love to repeat what they hear 3rd hand

Nope. There's too many examples that many of us have seen firsthand to believe that. Perhaps on paper disability is hard to get, but in practice it is certainly being abused.
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