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re: Is birth control really only 99% effective or is that more a safety barrier from lawsuits?

Posted on 12/29/23 at 11:05 am to
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12522 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 11:05 am to
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You ever heard of a fella named Jesus?

Baws dad was the OG Jody.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68690 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 11:11 am to
Its harder to get pregnant than people think.

Just look at adoption waits and how many people go ivf.





Thats why i never buy it was an accident.

The female has to be ovulating and you then have to fertilize her egg. No accidents there.







This post was edited on 12/29/23 at 11:12 am
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 12/29/23 at 11:19 am to
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 12/29/23 at 11:21 am to
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The female has to be ovulating and you then have to fertilize her egg. No accidents there.
the woman has to know her cycle - most don’t - so it’s just easier to take a pill
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
6853 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 11:21 am to
Baw you must not have a Big Dick if you haven’t busted condoms during sex. I’ve busted both Magnums and Magnum XL’s. That or you don’t know how to take a bawette to pound town properly.
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
10311 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 11:22 am to
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they get knocked up
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Bitches
Trashy
Posted by lsut2005
Northshore
Member since Jul 2009
2603 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 11:33 am to
I mean it’s RARE that two heterosexual people will use condoms if the female is on the pill. So I’d say it works pretty well. Even pull out method works pretty well all things considered.
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
7580 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 11:33 am to
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20 years for me through condom or pill

You could save yourself and your SO a lot of angst and some decent coin for the cost of an out-patient co-pay and a bag of frozen peas.
Posted by TigerDude80
METRY
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Posted on 12/29/23 at 11:36 am to
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9406 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 11:40 am to
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Would be interesting if you could do a study at some Third World brothel where prostitution is legal. Do they get pregnant every other month with the number of dudes cumming & going?

Two things here:

1. I’m fairly certain legal brothels don’t let dudes just raw dog and shoot their load wherever they want.

2. That’s not really how regular birth control (the pill) works. It either works for the month or it doesn’t. It doesn’t really matter whether the woman has sex 3 times or 1000 times, as long as the pill did its job that month. If it doesn’t work then more sex will obviously increase the odds of pregnancy. So I would expect the “failure rate” in that scenario to be somewhat higher than average. But not as much higher as you might think.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16418 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 11:41 am to
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It just seems far more effective than 1 in 100 might get pregnant “with perfect use” as they say in studies.

Sucks for that 1 dude in that study that accidently knocked up some random lab rat
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30359 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 12:00 pm to
A friend of mine got his wife pregnant while she was on the pill back in college. She was on an antibiotics and that is when I first heard that antibiotics can decrease the effectiveness of the pill.

The guy I bought my first boat from got his wife pregnant after she had a tubal ligation. When her doctor delivered by section the baby, he said the tubes had an inch separation between the snipped ends and he had no idea how she got pregnant.

Independent condom studies have found a percentage of them "leak". Much higher in the low-budget brands.

But the biggest risk is always improper use. We probably have all had condoms break. The question becomes did we do something to cause that (other than friction )
Posted by mt1
LV
Member since Nov 2006
7194 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 12:04 pm to
That is exactly how we were "blessed" with our first child.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14965 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 12:41 pm to
I’m not well-versed enough to cite facts/figures and recite the tables, but no, “99%” is not just a legal protection. I’m pretty certain if you review the data from all the trials seen here, you’ll find that pregnancies occurred in some of the women in the cohorts. The first study had over 16,000 women. It can be a little hard to wrap your head around how percentages work and are applied in statistics at the population level. For example, if there’s a 1% chance of a bad thing happening in a clinic that sees that thing 100 times a day, that means it’s a daily occurrence (basically, once you average out over time. It may happen 3 times in one day and you may go a week between episodes, but you see it essentially everyday). So when it comes to pregnancies per 100, 99% is pretty good. But in 16,000 people who want 0 babies between them, it’s 160 babies, which is quite a few more than zero.


Anyway, they follow women over time and have done so for a while. They think there are several “fair” ways to look at data, including “who took it? “Who took it the right way?” And “how many women who are prescribed this wind up pregnant within a year? (Or a lot use 11/13 months, 18 and 24 months for whatever reason).”


So, the “perfect use” numbers are actually derived from observation data (some of which has some estimates added back or subtracted away, and you then get to decide how valid you think the entire study is. Thanks, “science”). They are not just estimates based on, “what sounds good but won’t get us sued?” And on this topic, you have a pretty decent amount of
1) interest
2) research
3) fairly easily agreed upon outcomes
Posted by grsharky
Member since Dec 2019
181 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:01 pm to
Women could always go with the IUDs if they want to skip the pill. My wife (no pics) didn't want to go back on the pill after our second kid so she got the brass IUD. They made her sign a contract that she would keep it in for 4 years, but after I got the snip they removed it, think she had it in for about 18 months or so.

She's a pharmacist and she always talked about how she didn't want to deal with the hormone stuff that comes with the pill.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29559 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:02 pm to
100% insinuates “fully guarantee every time”, and I don’t know any company that guarantees anything

Other than Men’s Wearhouse guaranteeing that customers like their their products

This post was edited on 12/29/23 at 1:04 pm
Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
5711 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:05 pm to
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you dont just get her pregnant on the first shot.


Have two kids that say otherwise. I don't know which one of us was overachieving but both freaking times.
This post was edited on 12/29/23 at 1:14 pm
Posted by tgrmeat
Member since Sep 2020
4342 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:15 pm to
The odds go up if you use a condom, birth control pills and the withdrawal method.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:19 pm to
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for over 20 years for me through condom or pill
Couldn't ever imagine even contemplating using a condom with my wife.


quote:

Is birth control really only 99% effective
beehole sex is 100% effective birth control
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:20 pm to
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the withdrawal method.

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