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re: Insanity continues: Confederate National Flags removed at Ft Sumter Monument
Posted on 6/29/15 at 11:39 pm to GetCocky11
Posted on 6/29/15 at 11:39 pm to GetCocky11
If I had magical super powers I would replace every confederate flag with a photo of Caitlyn.
Posted on 6/29/15 at 11:43 pm to NYNolaguy1
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If this continues (and I don't see why it would stop), you're going to start seeing vocal and visible resistance to this sort of shite. Dividing people across state lines with all of the SCOTUS rulings of late are making this a perfect storm. Add the person in the white house and you have a clusterfrick.
Exactly what the Obama admin wants. Divide a nation to the point of war, be it racial, political, whatever. If it gets to that point, Obama will declare martial law and remain in office. We seem to be on a perfect path and picking up momentum quickly towards that.
Posted on 6/29/15 at 11:47 pm to StrongSafety
2 points to that.
1- Where does it stop? Should we do away with the Texas state flag being of the thousands of Mexicans who died over territory? What about the American flag who makes Muslim Americans uncomfortable? Should we take it down as well? frick it, the only flag or symbol anyone in the 50 states can have is a flat grey flag with no symbols or meaning. But hey, we aren't offending anyone then.
2- "Black while getting slaughtered in masses". A) Black people sold black slaves in Africa. Many many other countries all over the world bought, used, and abused these slaves. There is still a slave market in Africa today. B) What about the thousands upon thousands of black on black homicides have occurred? I guess that's also due to white oppression.
1- Where does it stop? Should we do away with the Texas state flag being of the thousands of Mexicans who died over territory? What about the American flag who makes Muslim Americans uncomfortable? Should we take it down as well? frick it, the only flag or symbol anyone in the 50 states can have is a flat grey flag with no symbols or meaning. But hey, we aren't offending anyone then.
2- "Black while getting slaughtered in masses". A) Black people sold black slaves in Africa. Many many other countries all over the world bought, used, and abused these slaves. There is still a slave market in Africa today. B) What about the thousands upon thousands of black on black homicides have occurred? I guess that's also due to white oppression.
Posted on 6/29/15 at 11:47 pm to RubbaMaka0802
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the Obama admin wants.
Is a lame duck admin. He is gone in 18 months. It is so funny that a conservative decision from the court is so chastised from the otherwise so-called right.
Posted on 6/29/15 at 11:48 pm to Minnesota Tiger
An ignorant comment considering you know nothing about me personally and I just shite on your point.
But hey that's the typical liberal response when someone else has a different opinion than yours. "You're trash or you're stupid." Congrats
But hey that's the typical liberal response when someone else has a different opinion than yours. "You're trash or you're stupid." Congrats
This post was edited on 6/29/15 at 11:52 pm
Posted on 6/29/15 at 11:53 pm to GetCocky11
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The removed flags include the first and second national flags of the Confederate States of America as well as two earlier versions of the U.S. flag.
Did no one else catch that?
Judging by that picture it seems like the only flags they'll fly over the Fort are the current SC state and US flags.
I'm okay with that.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 12:15 am to StrongSafety
If it takes blacks getting slaughtered in masses to wake up and say something, why haven't your people said anything about the fact that blacks get killed by blacks >90% of the time?
Posted on 6/30/15 at 12:31 am to Klark Kent
quote:Link to where I called someone trashy or dumb.
Klark Kent
Don't worry I'll wait. Props though for caring so much. I wish I did.
Thanks for being another pissed off redneck though, I'll add you to the list.
This post was edited on 6/30/15 at 12:33 am
Posted on 6/30/15 at 12:38 am to DownSouthCrawfish
"trashy flag"
the phrase you use multiple times in this thread is as equally offensive as calling someone trashy specifically and you know it. Why? Because as many in here, who's opinion you've been oblivious to, southern heritage and geographic pride is represented by that flag. But that's the whole debate here isn't it? Some see the flag as an oppressive racist symbol, while others have pride and relate to the flag for far more reasons than slavery. But by you and many others looking for attention, we are lumped in with the KKK and the sick little frick who muredrer innocent people in SC
the phrase you use multiple times in this thread is as equally offensive as calling someone trashy specifically and you know it. Why? Because as many in here, who's opinion you've been oblivious to, southern heritage and geographic pride is represented by that flag. But that's the whole debate here isn't it? Some see the flag as an oppressive racist symbol, while others have pride and relate to the flag for far more reasons than slavery. But by you and many others looking for attention, we are lumped in with the KKK and the sick little frick who muredrer innocent people in SC
Posted on 6/30/15 at 5:31 am to GetCocky11
FWIW even DU thinks they went too far with this.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 5:53 am to DownSouthCrawfish
The mason dixon line is north need directions.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 6:27 am to StrongSafety
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We've been sick and tired of being sick and tired since 1789
Holy frick you're old.
Are you sick and tired yet of the rampant death rates our black populace is inflicting upon itself?
Are you sick and tired in the number of black kids aborted by am encouraging adminstration on a yearly basis?
Posted on 6/30/15 at 6:34 am to StrongSafety
Wasn't the American flag flying high during the peak of the slave trade? Lincoln/the North didn't care about your ancestors either, bro, but I guess you only remember 3/5ths of your history.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 7:15 am to LewDawg
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but I guess you only remember 3/5ths of your history.
Spot on
Posted on 6/30/15 at 7:17 am to Klark Kent
1- I understand the slippery slope argument, and it does make me uneasy as well. However, I do think we can show solidarity to our minority groups by putting hateful and discriminatory symbols away and in a museum. Our biggest sin as a country was our racial discrimination , considering we are a heterogenous free democratic country , and holding on to hateful times does nothing for those that want to keep it up but gave them a sense of superiority over the offended. Because they lose nothing from it being put in a museum. I'm all for history, and I don't think it can or should be erased, but as we grow and evolve, we come to know that not every past saint should really be revered.
2- slavery in Africa wasn't based on racial discrimination, nor was a it a free democratic society, and it was in freaking another country, so it has no barring on the legitimacy of the American slavery institute. I find that argument to nothing but a deflector. The Africans that sold their slaves to the Europeans in no way dictated the subsequent prolonged oppression of their slaves. It's an irrelevant argument.
Also, Africans didn't ship other Afrixans all around the world and subject them to continued racial discrimination under a racial caste system.
Those 1000s of black on black crimes are address all the time. I see them in the service work I do, and amongst friends and family. It just doesn't get play In the media. Civic groups like 100 black men, Black frats and soro, jack and Jill do so much work in the community to combat these things the naysayers say we don't address.
2- slavery in Africa wasn't based on racial discrimination, nor was a it a free democratic society, and it was in freaking another country, so it has no barring on the legitimacy of the American slavery institute. I find that argument to nothing but a deflector. The Africans that sold their slaves to the Europeans in no way dictated the subsequent prolonged oppression of their slaves. It's an irrelevant argument.
Also, Africans didn't ship other Afrixans all around the world and subject them to continued racial discrimination under a racial caste system.
Those 1000s of black on black crimes are address all the time. I see them in the service work I do, and amongst friends and family. It just doesn't get play In the media. Civic groups like 100 black men, Black frats and soro, jack and Jill do so much work in the community to combat these things the naysayers say we don't address.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 7:19 am to LewDawg
I get warned for "racist" comments and you throw out a "3/5ths" remark ?
How was the rally yesterday ?
How was the rally yesterday ?
Posted on 6/30/15 at 7:19 am to GetCocky11
That iOS a museum right? Why wouldn't the flags be flown there?
Posted on 6/30/15 at 7:22 am to thejudge
Stop deflecting, and trying to turn this conversation into the typical blacks are their own worst enemy convo.
That argument isn't even applicable here. It's the typical escape argument conservatives use. The conservation is about th flag and hrs horrid symbolism.
That argument isn't even applicable here. It's the typical escape argument conservatives use. The conservation is about th flag and hrs horrid symbolism.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 7:27 am to StrongSafety
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That argument isn't even applicable here. It's the typical escape argument conservatives use. The conservation is about th flag and hrs horrid symbolism.
When will you realize that most of us aren't defending the flag, but defending the right to fly it ? If you want it gone from public buildings fine, but from Fort Sumter?? That's asinine. Do you think it makes any sense that you can go on google and find all kinds of places to buy a Nazi flag but not a Confederate one?
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