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Posted on 7/13/17 at 4:58 pm
Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
6724 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 4:58 pm
Why aren't all dashcams live streamed to headquarters? The radio operator could have a screen for each on-duty unit. If s(he)(still mean the same in '17?) sees that a unit is having a tough time or the particular situation might could use back up that she know is available and close, the operator could send a unit before the first officer calls it in.

Also, it would be an effective accountability tool.

What would be the pros and cons of this?

Posted by dfintlyHmmrd
Jigga City
Member since Dec 2016
1408 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 4:59 pm to
Major cost....
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17909 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:01 pm to
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Major cost....

How often does your local department get sued for 6 or 7 figures?
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32537 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:02 pm to
quote:

How often does your local department get sued for 6 or 7 figures?



Not very
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:02 pm to
quote:


What would be the pros and cons of this?

Expensive and would require a lot of infrastructure, data storage, etc. Plus, if you're in an area where there is no cell service, it would be useless.

Current dashcams typically record, temporarily save, and then save video 2 minutes prior to the lights coming on.
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 5:48 pm
Posted by dfintlyHmmrd
Jigga City
Member since Dec 2016
1408 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:03 pm to
quote:

How often does your local department get sued for 6 or 7 figures?


How would live stream video stop these lawsuits anyway? Exactly, it wouldn't
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 5:04 pm
Posted by Kodar
Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
4558 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:04 pm to
quote:

Major cost....
This is the primary factor. It's a neat idea, but the raw amount of $ involved make it impractical.

As another mentioned, it could also be limited based on signal in more remote areas.
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 5:05 pm
Posted by tom
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
8156 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:04 pm to
quote:

How would live stream video stop these lawsuits anyway?

Sell it to A&E and pay for the lawsuits out of all that delicious TV money!
Posted by Pico de Gallo
Member since Aug 2016
1894 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:10 pm to
Uhhh cost, manpower, jobs, storage, transmitting capabilities, signal strength, just to name a few.
Posted by theCrusher
Slidell
Member since Nov 2007
1132 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:14 pm to
We built a platform that converges video, text and social media feeds into a single stream viewed and pushed out from an operations console. We are piloting the application now with a large city in Texas.

We've added body cams and drones to the mix.
Posted by bgoodwin
Cullman, Al
Member since Sep 2011
589 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:18 pm to
Are you willing to foot the cost via a tax increase?
Me neither.
Posted by Milk
central
Member since May 2010
1042 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:22 pm to
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tough time or the particular situation might could use back up that she know is available and close


Saw what you did there.

Dispatchers have a hard enough time keeping up with officers when multiple calls are active. Officers except in very rare occassions call for back up at the 1st sign of real trouble and dispatch matrix recommends multiple units for different type of calls.

Your idea is good, but the manpower to watch and listen to cameras plus the cellular data usage to constantly stream video would bankrupt most departments.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76290 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:28 pm to
quote:

What would be the pros and cons of this?


Police don't want cameras.
Posted by 7thWardTo314
Member since May 2017
1278 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:42 pm to
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We built a platform that converges video, text and social media feeds into a single stream viewed and pushed out from an operations console.
awesome. Now the govt is hacking our text messages
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30282 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:46 pm to
quote:

Plus, if you're in an area where there is no sell service, it would be useless.



Not to mention if the cell service was bad
sorry, couldn't resist
Posted by Negative Nomad
Hell
Member since Oct 2011
3173 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:47 pm to
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This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 12:29 am
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:48 pm to
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sorry, couldn't resist


Will edit cuz I'm dum
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 6:13 pm to
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It's not a matter or why or when. It's a matter of privacy. Yes officers are entitled to privacy. What if they want to take a piss? What if they're having a private conversation with family on the phone or in person? What if they're called to a home for a medical situation? Then you're into some HIPA issues. How about live streaming a rape investigation? Live Streaming will never happen. Too many liabilities.


It is already being used in many police departments.

LINK

Employees of a private business are not entitled to privacy in the situations you list while on the job, businesses recording all phone calls made on company phones is extremely common, why should the police be any different?

LINK

Emergency medical and fire departments are already streaming live video from the scene, so apparently HIppa is not a issue, the only thing that will prevent this from happening in most departments is the resistance to transparency by some police departments.
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 6:19 pm
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20502 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 6:24 pm to
quote:

Not very




It only takes one large claim avoided for it to pay for itself.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20892 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 6:32 pm to
quote:

How would live stream video stop these lawsuits anyway?


The officers knowing they couldnt tamper with the dashcam would be a major deterrant to "poor" behavior.
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