re: I requested and had a meeting yesterday with my manager...

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Posted by theBeard never worked for a firm where HR decided my compensation. How can someone who has no day to day interaction with me decide how much to pay me?

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Larger companies work this way, you are paid based on others in similar positions within the company and the cost of replacing you.

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He told me that he has no control over whether or not that will happen nor does he have any control to how much my salary will increase

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The most telling statement that says the most.

I have worked for several large companies and never heard of this. All HR did where I was, was bitch paper work.

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My section head is a woman, and she's always gone to bat for me. Maybe it has more to do with you than her.

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I've never worked for a woman. I can't imagine it. Is that sexist? Prolly, a bit. I know there are good and bad female supervisors, I've simply never had the occasion. I'm now close enough to the work Finish Line that I probably won't ever experience a female boss.

The firm I work for is 90% male, but the 10% of females happen to be in my department. I'm still trying to figure out how I'm the only male in Audit.

I've had female bosses at three points in my career, in two firms.

Two of the three were awesome, great to work with. One of them could not stand me and did everything she could to get me fired. Which made it all the more sweeter when she herself was canned.

We have a female manager and a female supervisor in another department in my current firm, who are absolute hosebeasts. I think they spend half their day starting trouble and trying to get people fired. However... the only try to get other females fired, never try to get a guy fired. Must be some f'd up hormonal thing.

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Women in workplace hate men in the workplace.

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This is so true

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Are you willing to walk away over it? (If not, then, "No, it won't make a difference.")

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this is the best/only advice u need. Only thing I'd add is have a backup plan if it doesn't go as planned . Leverage is key to calling bluffs

I have a good deal of experience with this.

1. Managers always hide behind HR. They won't go to bat for you unless they'll lose you. Get an offer letter from another company and see what happens.(but be ready to leave if need be)

2. You need to start interviewing if you don't like the salary. Chances are if your annual 3-5% increase hasn't kept you marketable you'll need an offer to get a real raise out of your current job. If they won't give it to you then you're better off leaving because they don't think they need another senior engineer.

3. I'd interview even if you do like the salary they come up with. Even if you don't want to leave it's good professional experience. Interviewing and getting offers is the best way to know your market value in my opinion.


I've been in 2 different situations with 2 different companies where the manager hid behind HR and then they beat the offer when I got an offer from another company. Like someone said earlier 90% of employees bend over and take it or just go away when the manager says "HR won't let me". I've only had 3 jobs mind you.