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re: Hypothetical: Could modern day engineers move the Lower Mississippi River?
Posted on 5/22/15 at 8:29 pm to DustyDinkleman
Posted on 5/22/15 at 8:29 pm to DustyDinkleman
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Natural Alluviation of the Mississippi by letting it flow naturally would actually help rebuild much of what we've lost.
yeah and it would also wash away every coon arse south of Donaldsonville every 20 years, too.
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Posted on 5/22/15 at 8:31 pm to Asgard Device
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Would that be navigable? Would it help slow down coastal erosion?
Of course it would. But you would eliminate one of the largest ports in the country.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 8:34 pm to UpToPar
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Of course it would. But you would eliminate one of the largest ports in the country.
Wouldn't you just move it? The stuff that goes on railroads may still be able to go through there.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 8:34 pm to Asgard Device
Even with that a big part of the problem is a diminished sediment load in the Mississippi due to dams in the tributaries. I saw a presentation from Harry Roberts that said we were gonna continue losing at a rapid rate even if we took extreme measures.
Eta: I remembered the number of dams is north of 38 thousand lol
Eta: I remembered the number of dams is north of 38 thousand lol
This post was edited on 5/22/15 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 5/22/15 at 8:37 pm to dagrippa
Take out old river control structure and it goes into the Atchafalaya River and it would be navigable to the gulf immediately.
Baton Rrouge and New Orleans would be high and dry.
Baton Rrouge and New Orleans would be high and dry.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 8:38 pm to dagrippa
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Even with that a big part of the problem is a diminished sediment load in the Mississippi due to dams in the tributaries.
That makes sense. They would have to come up with some serious dam technology that allows sediment to go through?
Posted on 5/22/15 at 8:40 pm to Asgard Device
quote:There are literally trillions in facilities (refineries, chemical plants, grain elevators etc.) between BR and the current mouth of the river.
Wouldn't you just move it? The stuff that goes on railroads may still be able to go through there.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 8:40 pm to Martini
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Baton Rrouge and New Orleans would be high and dry.
Exactly why the Corps won't let it happen. It will one day, but not anytime soon. It would take years to build infrastructure to handle the load of traffic, more like decades.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 8:44 pm to glassman
It's a direct shot to the gulf from there and she wants to run straight. They have almost lost that structure a few times and better keep their fingers crossed. If it ever does go there is no way to change the course.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 8:45 pm to Asgard Device
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No, you can't.
Yes, you can.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 8:46 pm to Asgard Device
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Secondly, and most importantly, you stipulated an elevator to the moon which is not fixed relative to Earth.
Give me enough money and I can design a system.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 8:47 pm to achenator
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There are literally trillions
literally..
This post was edited on 5/22/15 at 8:48 pm
Posted on 5/22/15 at 8:49 pm to Asgard Device
He probably meant a literal shite-ton.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 8:49 pm to glassman
quote:For sure. They have been trying to get a new Industrial Lock in NOLA for almost 60 years LOL
It would take years to build infrastructure to handle the load of traffic, more like decades.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 8:50 pm to Asgard Device
You don't think there is investment on the river?
Posted on 5/22/15 at 8:51 pm to Asgard Device
While my comment was tongue in cheek, the point remains that with unlimited resources any problem can be solved.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 8:51 pm to Asgard Device
It's been discussed....just money money money and fricking with people's homes. This basically means we're fricked. Dewatering/natural compaction+lower sediment levels+leveed river+rising sea level is a grim number. I saw a slide that showed south La in 2100. It was shocking. Roberts is no wackadoo either.
he showed proposed places for destruction of the miss riv levee with all place names removed. Would buy us years but you know the nimbys would sue like crazy.
he showed proposed places for destruction of the miss riv levee with all place names removed. Would buy us years but you know the nimbys would sue like crazy.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 8:52 pm to junkfunky
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If you have the time, space and money you can build an elevator to the moon.
Other than the fact that I don't think we have the materials. ... correct
Posted on 5/22/15 at 8:58 pm to junkfunky
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Give me enough money and I can design a system.
Can you at least draw up a crude mockup of your earth-moon elevator?
Posted on 5/22/15 at 9:12 pm to Asgard Device
Ok maybe not trillions but maybe close to one trillion LOL. I could only imagine how much it would cost to build EXXON BR again? At least a couple billion for sure.
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