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re: Storm Aftermath - Hurricane Matthew will be Retired

Posted on 9/24/16 at 1:45 pm to
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 9/24/16 at 1:45 pm to
There is obviously something different about this one. Usually nobody even mentions a storm out this far other than maybe a sentence or two on a blog just saying it's something to watch for later.

With this thing 2 weeks out I'm almost certain a front will play a factor here


I'm really hoping we can get a cool front for opening weekend of deer season
Posted by Shaun176
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
2465 posts
Posted on 9/24/16 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

I don't recall ever seeing a system maintain a straight line that passes just north of S. America or gets that close to middle/lower C. America. Does this only happen late in the season?


I don't think Aruba has been hit by a Hurricane in recorded history.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35891 posts
Posted on 9/24/16 at 2:00 pm to
That's what they told us in 2005, Katrinas and Ritas would happen every year.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19805 posts
Posted on 9/24/16 at 2:12 pm to
That's not a good look at D10 on the 12z Euro

Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 9/24/16 at 3:50 pm to
Ok but based on that why would it turn and come north?
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 9/24/16 at 3:52 pm to
It would curve north because of the curvature of the earth.
Posted by BigB0882
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
5308 posts
Posted on 9/24/16 at 4:30 pm to
Well, we don't know how it ends on the Euro run because the Euro does not go beyond that. However, looking at the map I see a trough coming through the Midwest. That can create the opening for it to start heading poleward. Timing is everything. If that trough gets clear off the East coast quickly then it opens up for this to head N then NE and probably into Florida. If it is a slow move or doesn't dig very far south then it may be a more gradual NW to N turn which is worrisome for us in Louisiana.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 9/24/16 at 4:50 pm to
Thanks. Hard for someone that knows so little about it as I do to understand troughs and ridges. Some push it some pull it I guess
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40090 posts
Posted on 9/24/16 at 4:58 pm to
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Its pretty crazy how much everything is in agreement for being so far out time-wise. That's the thing that worries me.




Glad that I am no longer living in the caribbean.
Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
11271 posts
Posted on 9/24/16 at 5:09 pm to
An interesting historical fact is that since 1851 a hurricane has not made landfall in Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, or Texas between October 5 and October 11. Here are the landfalls by date:

Sep. 27 - 1901
Sep. 28 - None
Sep. 29 - 1915, 1917, 1998
Sep. 30 - None
Oct. 1 - None
Oct. 2 - 1860, 1867, 1893
Oct. 3 - 1964, 2002
Oct. 4 - 1867, 1949, 1995
Oct. 5 - Oct. 11 - None
Oct. 12 - 1886
Oct. 13 - None
Oct. 14 - None
Oct. 15 - None
Oct. 16 - 1912, 1923, 1989

That's about 1 every 14 years between Oct. 2 and Oct. 16. And the last one was Lili in 2002 - 14 years ago. Based on climatology, the potential is there.

This potential system would most likely be between Oct. 7 and Oct. 9.

LINK
This post was edited on 9/24/16 at 5:17 pm
Posted by moffettduck
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Feb 2016
857 posts
Posted on 9/24/16 at 5:23 pm to
Another dud of a season.. everyone it was fun with no major damage or storms to worry about.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19805 posts
Posted on 9/24/16 at 8:51 pm to
NHC up to 70% chance of development:

Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
8356 posts
Posted on 9/24/16 at 9:10 pm to
Keep it up. I follow the underground blog, but it is nice to have another outlet.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19805 posts
Posted on 9/24/16 at 9:54 pm to
quote:

Well, we don't know how it ends on the Euro run because the Euro does not go beyond that. However, looking at the map I see a trough coming through the Midwest. That can create the opening for it to start heading poleward. Timing is everything. If that trough gets clear off the East coast quickly then it opens up for this to head N then NE and probably into Florida. If it is a slow move or doesn't dig very far south then it may be a more gradual NW to N turn which is worrisome for us in Louisiana.


That is basically it. Also, it is modeled to be so far south that a weaker trough might miss it allowing it to move into Central America. This time of year is always tough for the models to handle but the timing of troughs gets to be easier to pin down as we move towards October but the strength can still be tricky. The 12z Euro EPS is pretty much totally on board as well:



The EPS and control run go out to 15 days. The control is into Mexico and the EPS members are pretty evenly split with about 1/3 curving out east of Florida, 1/3 somewhere in the Gulf and 1/3 into Central America.

The trough is also pretty pronounced on the 12z Euro EPS:

Posted by purplepylon
NOLA & Laffy
Member since Nov 2005
7768 posts
Posted on 9/24/16 at 11:54 pm to


Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62726 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 12:23 am to
898 and 924 mb?
Posted by lsuman25
Erwinville
Member since Aug 2013
41463 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 12:26 am to
Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
11271 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 12:44 am to
The storm surge with that strength and slow forward speed would be incredible.

60 hours to travel from Cuba to the FL panhandle. That's less than 10 mph.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19805 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 7:41 am to
NHC up to 80%



Models are now running for 97L:

This post was edited on 9/25/16 at 7:46 am
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98468 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 7:48 am to
Well...that's a pretty tight consensus
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