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re: Hundreds of masked men rampage streets, beating refugee kids in revenge attack
Posted on 1/30/16 at 10:46 am to Rouge
Posted on 1/30/16 at 10:46 am to Rouge
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What group doesn't contain innocents?
Exactly my point.
If this article had been about a group of civilians that had taken revenge on an individual that was known to be part of a previous attack; I would have less concern. But it's not. This is basically devolving into a group of xenophobes that are capitalizing on mass fear to rationalize violence as "justice."
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Posted on 1/30/16 at 10:46 am to WaltTeevens
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Why not send the army in there?
it would be racist and against the Swedish policy of multiculturalism
that's the same reason why they hide the racial/ethnic identities of the perpetrators of crime and avoid it in census data
these progressives indirectly admit these cultures are barbaric and coddle/protect them so that there is less data publicly available to use to criticize them. and that was before this mass invasion. now the barbarians are acting out and the government is paralyzed because a response would be spun as racist and its actual citizens are being affected
that's why you have civilian patrols
Posted on 1/30/16 at 10:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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if the government doesn't get its head out of its arse, these incidents will be very tame
Article read "hundreds" it was more like 40-50. BUT if it was 40-50 then that means there were at least hundreds who were willing or thousands that are like minded.
Talked to a Brit 3-4 years ago, and he was bitching about Muslims in London.
It is not sustainable EVEN IF the Muslims coming in ALL were willing to assimilate. There just isnt the room. You cannot empty a global region into another.
Posted on 1/30/16 at 10:47 am to WaltTeevens
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It seems like a tough situation, but if you start allowing everyone to decide what laws to follow, you'd basically have thunderdome. Why not send the army in there?
It was becoming thunderdome because the police were doing nothing, these men went in to do what the police should have done in the first place. I don't know why they didn't send the army in, maybe they have laws like ours that forbids it.
Posted on 1/30/16 at 10:47 am to Rouge
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The people are acting because the government is not acting.
it's not acting to protect its western citizenry and it is acting to facilitate and protect the invasion of non-western culture
...at the expense of its citizenry
Posted on 1/30/16 at 10:50 am to SlowFlowPro
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i'm not saying they're "right". i'm saying this is going to happen and it's very tame now. it will only get worse as government keeps enraging its populations with insane policies
I agree that this sort of behavior is predictable. Just pointing out that the undertones of most of the posts have been very permissive. At the root of this is not justice... it's more than likely a group of racists that feel they've been given carte blanche because of the fear of the population. This does nothing but perpetuate the cycle.
Posted on 1/30/16 at 10:51 am to WaltTeevens
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It seems like a tough situation, but if you start allowing everyone to decide what laws to follow, you'd basically have thunderdome.
That is precisely what the govt is doing. Thus the "thunder dome" reaction by civilians. Thanks for proving the point
Posted on 1/30/16 at 10:55 am to Kujo
Yikes.
Posted on 1/30/16 at 10:56 am to Stagg8
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Just pointing out that the undertones of most of the posts have been very permissive
because of 2 things
1. it's easy to be billy badass over a computer
2. this policy is coming here and this is seen as "us" fighting back against "them"
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it's more than likely a group of racists
we don't know that and using the R-word is just foolish given the context. women are being raped and it's being dismissed out of fear of being seen as racist to prosecute non-white perpetrators. you're just indirectly promoting that insanity by going there
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This does nothing but perpetuate the cycle.
i don't think there is a "cycle" because it's been pretty one-way for decades. we don't know what the response will be
Posted on 1/30/16 at 10:57 am to upgrayedd
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That is precisely what the govt is doing. Thus the "thunder dome" reaction by civilians.
exactly
Posted on 1/30/16 at 11:00 am to Kujo
I've been saying for a while that, after a certain breaking point, the pendulum was going to swing violently in the other direction. I expect to see more and more anti-immigrant reaction across Europe.
Posted on 1/30/16 at 11:03 am to Kujo
So why are they targeting defenseless kids? Because they are really just gutless thugs ?? Sad that this is supported by so called Christians/Americans ...
Posted on 1/30/16 at 11:03 am to SlowFlowPro
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using the R-word
What else would you call a group of people who violently attack another based on nothing but skin color? And seriously, is this bizarro world? SFP going PC?
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women are being raped and it's being dismissed out of fear of being seen as racist to prosecute non-white perpetrators.
I'll let you try to remember the responses on this board when there have been gang rapes committed by black males. I wouldn't exactly call it restraint.
The moral is... you and I are apparently arguing two separate things. You're saying that this response is expected but not necessarily morally right and/or healthy. I don't disagree. I'm saying that two sides repeating mass violence against each other without due cause is unhealthy.
Posted on 1/30/16 at 11:04 am to HempHead
Either drastic stuff like this will happen or there won't be a recognizable Europe in the future. It's liberalism to the point of suicide.
Posted on 1/30/16 at 11:04 am to ecb
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So why are they targeting defenseless kids? Because they are really just gutless thugs ??
My guess would be that children is a placeholder for post-pubescent teenagers, meant to elicit this exact kind of reaction.
At the very least, I hope so. I understand anti-immigrant sentiment in those countries, but attacking actual children can never be condoned.
This post was edited on 1/30/16 at 11:06 am
Posted on 1/30/16 at 11:12 am to Stagg8
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And seriously, is this bizarro world? SFP going PC?
using the R-word is a crutch of the PC movement. i'd use nationalist or xenophobic depending on the circumstances
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I'm saying that two sides repeating mass violence against each other without due cause is unhealthy.
oh it is unhealthy
and it's due to an unhealthy situation created by government (forced multiculturalism) that doubles down when government gives advantages to one group (here, the non-western) at the expense of its citizenry and cultural groupings
Posted on 1/30/16 at 11:16 am to ecb
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So why are they targeting defenseless kids
Please tell me that you don't actually believe that. They are targeting the ones that have been terrorizing the populace for quite some time. The govt has hung their own citizens out to dry and they are beginning to fight back. Everybody had to see this coming. I'm afraid that it will get very ugly.
Posted on 1/30/16 at 11:17 am to Kujo
I can't get behind specifically targeting children but I definitely understand where they are coming from.
It's sad because I'm sure the majority of the refugees are fine people but at the same time they are going to ruin these countries if the governments won't do anything to stop them from coming in.
I side with the Swedes but wish they would change their plan of attack (pun intended).
It's sad because I'm sure the majority of the refugees are fine people but at the same time they are going to ruin these countries if the governments won't do anything to stop them from coming in.
I side with the Swedes but wish they would change their plan of attack (pun intended).
Posted on 1/30/16 at 11:17 am to SlowFlowPro
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using the R-word is a crutch of the PC movement. i'd use nationalist or xenophobic depending on the circumstances
What's the difference between racism and xenophobia in this particular context? "Swedes beat the shite out of refugees despite no evidence of wrong-doing." Were all the refugees from the same country? Or is it more likely it was a group of people that looked the same?
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government gives advantages to one group
What advantages specifically?
Posted on 1/30/16 at 11:18 am to HempHead
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I've been saying for a while that, after a certain breaking point, the pendulum was going to swing violently in the other direction. I expect to see more and more anti-immigrant reaction across Europe.
I heard a speech by Larry Eagleburger several years ago - he predicts a war between the haves and the have nots of the world. This might just be an early skirmish in such a war.
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