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Posted on 8/23/17 at 2:26 pm to 50_Tiger
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Gift Tax
this is such bullshite
Posted on 8/23/17 at 2:29 pm to 50_Tiger
Why couldn't you set up a LLC with the people you want to give to as active members and the LLC receives the money. So you're not gifting anyone. The LLC receives the money and does a one time distribution that's taxed one time to you and those you want to share with. They own a percentage of the LLC equal to what you want them to have. That's why you meet with attorneys and tax consultants before you claim your prize.
Or claim you all put in to buy the ticket, again an amount equal to what you want them to get so you "all are winners of that ticket"
Talking out my arse with no real knowledge, but assume there's ways to accomplish this.
Or claim you all put in to buy the ticket, again an amount equal to what you want them to get so you "all are winners of that ticket"
Talking out my arse with no real knowledge, but assume there's ways to accomplish this.
This post was edited on 8/23/17 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 8/23/17 at 2:37 pm to junkfunky
if its 250 mil. I allocate 10m for friends and family. 10m for a 2 weeks in Vegas. 20m for a penthouse in The Village. 10m to start my own charity. Everything else goes in to conservative investments and I live off the interest.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 2:42 pm to VerlanderBEAST
i will give family some cash, but not make them millionaires.
I will do a couple of contests on OT,MSB,etcfor 50K. Donate some cash to chicken, and masturbate like the dickens
I will do a couple of contests on OT,MSB,etcfor 50K. Donate some cash to chicken, and masturbate like the dickens
Posted on 8/23/17 at 2:42 pm to TigrrrDad
Set up a trust fund for my niece, make sure my dad had siblings have everything they need. That's it. But, I'm selfish and greedy, so this will come as a shock to noone.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 2:46 pm to Tiger55
quote:
Why couldn't you set up a LLC with the people you want to give to as active members and the LLC receives the money. So you're not gifting anyone.
Then instead of you being on the hook for 40% gift taxes and them responsible for no taxes, you're free and clear. However, that money is probably going to come in as regular income for them so they'll be on the hook for income taxes on that money. Which, surprise, surprise, are going to be about 40%. You can hire a tax genius to help reduce your liability, but no matter what, the gubmint is going to get theirs first. Also, let's not forget that the lottery company pays the government huge amounts of money every year as a percentage of their total revenue.
The government is the greatest shakedown racket ever invented.
This post was edited on 8/23/17 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 8/23/17 at 2:52 pm to TigrrrDad
It would be my luck that I would die of a massive heart attack the day after I won.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 2:53 pm to TigerstuckinMS
quote:
Then instead of you being on the hook for 40% gift taxes and them responsible for no taxes, you're free and clear. However, that money is probably going to come in as regular income for them so they'll be on the hook for income taxes on that money. Which, surprise, surprise, are going to be about 40%. You can hire a tax genius to help reduce your liability, but no matter what, the gubmint is going to get theirs first. Also, let's not forget that the lottery company pays the government huge amounts of money every year as a percentage of their total revenue.
The government is the greatest shakedown racket ever invented.
I am sure there are greasy ways around it. But id rather not spend cash on lawyers.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 2:56 pm to TigrrrDad
First, I would create a blind trust to collect the $, and wouldn't tell anyone until I knew everything was secure.
Then I would do the following:
1. Tithe
2. Pay off existing debt
3. Pay off parent's existing debt
4. Pay off sibling's existing debt
Go to work without telling anyone what was going on. Sit and wait by the phone...when anyone calls, simply respond, "why don't you go f*** yourself", then hang up. Continue to do so until summoned by HR and terminated. When they tell me I'm terminated...stand up and yell (ala Al Pacino from And Justice for All) "You're out of Order...You're out of order...this whole damn place is out of order", at the top of my lungs.
Then I would do the following:
1. Tithe
2. Pay off existing debt
3. Pay off parent's existing debt
4. Pay off sibling's existing debt
Go to work without telling anyone what was going on. Sit and wait by the phone...when anyone calls, simply respond, "why don't you go f*** yourself", then hang up. Continue to do so until summoned by HR and terminated. When they tell me I'm terminated...stand up and yell (ala Al Pacino from And Justice for All) "You're out of Order...You're out of order...this whole damn place is out of order", at the top of my lungs.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 3:00 pm to DarthRebel
quote:you want to give 44 million dollars to your church?
10% - church - $44,000,000
Posted on 8/23/17 at 3:01 pm to TigerstuckinMS
quote:So essentially they just want to keep taxing money that has already been taxed
Then instead of you being on the hook for 40% gift taxes and them responsible for no taxes, you're free and clear. However, that money is probably going to come in as regular income for them so they'll be on the hook for income taxes on that money. Which, surprise, surprise, are going to be about 40%. You can hire a tax genius to help reduce your liability, but no matter what, the gubmint is going to get theirs first. Also, let's not forget that the lottery company pays the government huge amounts of money every year as a percentage of their total revenue.
The government is the greatest shakedown racket ever invented.
ETA:I think you could set up some type of trust and list them as trustees so they can access it. I think they can't be taxed on it that way.
This post was edited on 8/23/17 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 8/23/17 at 3:08 pm to TigrrrDad
probably would turn into one helluva court case bc I imagine i wouldn't live for much more than a week after.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 3:23 pm to 50_Tiger
quote:
Then instead of you being on the hook for 40% gift taxes and them responsible for no taxes, you're free and clear. However, that money is probably going to come in as regular income for them so they'll be on the hook for income taxes on that money. Which, surprise, surprise, are going to be about 40%. You can hire a tax genius to help reduce your liability, but no matter what, the gubmint is going to get theirs first.
Ok. My math was after taxes. So add the taxes back and that's the amount for each that each of us recognizes as income/distribution . Then we're each taxed one time for income and they net the amount I stated.
Was just making the point there are ways around being double taxes as First mine as income then second time as a gift tax to them. We're all taxed one time as income.
Lol that I'm arguing this given my chances of having to really deal with this. Would be a great headache to have.
This post was edited on 8/23/17 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 8/23/17 at 3:25 pm to TigrrrDad
quote:
. I'm guessing I distribute around $100 million to family.
NO WAY!
Posted on 8/23/17 at 9:39 pm to jmarto1
quote:
A lot of it will go to single mothers and young women struggling to get by in life due to their poor choices
You're going to leave that much to your employees after you quit?
Posted on 8/23/17 at 9:41 pm to 3en
I'll be giving away a large chunk to Uncle Sam and that is about it
Posted on 8/23/17 at 9:45 pm to TigrrrDad
I'd pay off any immediate debts for family members but I wouldn't provide any surplus because once you start it wouldn't stop and they would have no desire to continue their normal lives... always trying to live off you and more than likely they would blow it all because "it want their money to begin with"
This post was edited on 8/23/17 at 9:49 pm
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