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re: How Much Do Leaders Of Mega-Churches Really Make?
Posted on 9/15/16 at 11:39 am to kywildcatfanone
Posted on 9/15/16 at 11:39 am to kywildcatfanone
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God is not a genie in a bottle.
Similar to a genie in a bottle, however, God is not real.
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Posted on 9/15/16 at 11:40 am to OweO
We need to tax these damn churches
Posted on 9/15/16 at 11:45 am to UGATiger26
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Indeed, I'm sure I could do better.
And I bet your pastor could too. And so could I. My pastor drives around in a pretty nice Tahoe that can haul his kids around. Who's to say he shouldn't of gotten a second rate mini van instead?
My point was simply that I don't feel Osteen and others like him are any worse (or better) than any other pastors out there. Like all humans, they are flawed.
I consider the televangelists who promise the wildest riches, or a miracle candle, or whatever, to anyone that mails them a check to be disgusting. I don't view mega church pastors in this same light.
Albeit, this is from my somewhat limited exposure to Osteen.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 11:50 am to OweO
"When the wolves come the hireling fleeth..."
Posted on 9/15/16 at 11:54 am to OweO
tGOAT business model. No taxes, and those that speak out againt you are going to hell. Even the gov won't touch them. That one pastor in Colorado was smoking meth and having butt sex with men, and he is still in the mega church game. It is a complete shame.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 11:55 am to OweO
Priests can make damn good money. I used to do some volunteer bookkeeping while the average isn't on par with a lawyer or CPA... it's up there.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 11:55 am to Salmon
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.it's going to be hard to motivate that many people of the "power of God" from a wheel chair..
I dont need to read any further, you won the internet today
Posted on 9/15/16 at 11:58 am to OMapologist
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You conveniently ignore all the good that these mega churches do. Sounds to me like you're saying, "they have made a lot of money so they must be evil."
I have more of an issue with them building multiple campuses in an area, their pastors living in the same neighborhood as a D-1 Basketball coach who has won an NC, but yet when things happen in the community they're the last churches you see giving back.
For instance, a couple summers ago my parent's power was out due to storms in the area for about a week. Something like 90 degree temps. Two of the smaller, more meager churches in the area had members literally walking the neighborhoods handing out cold bottled water and checking on elderly people in the area. The mega church in the area? Nowhere to be seen until it had a guest speaker coming in where member could pay to see him speak. THEN they were canvasing the neighborhood to hand out flyers.
A church is supposed to be part of the community and to help nurture that community. It certainly seems like some of these mega churches are in it for the money and classism.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 11:59 am to AUCE05
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tGOAT business model. No taxes, and those that speak out againt you are going to hell.
Yep. You just rake in money (tax free) based on fear and ignorance of your congregation. Doesn't matter if you're full of shite. Even better if you are, actually.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 12:00 pm to Jcorye1
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Priests can make damn good money. I used to do some volunteer bookkeeping while the average isn't on par with a lawyer or CPA... it's up there.
"Up there" meaning what, exactly?
Posted on 9/15/16 at 12:05 pm to AUCE05
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tGOAT business model. No taxes, and those that speak out againt you are going to hell. Even the gov won't touch them.
It's not a business model, it's God showing people that he wants us to be rich and successful....these pastors are our Shepard....they are here spreading the word of God.....
You think God wants us to be poor? Of course not, he loves us, he loves us so much that if we give him 10% of our income, he will return it tenfold
Posted on 9/15/16 at 12:07 pm to tgrbaitn08
How am I suppose to reach these souls? God wants me to have this personal jet.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 12:08 pm to AUCE05
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How am I suppose to reach these souls? God wants me to have this personal jet.
exactly....they need that jet to be able to fly around the world and reach as many people as possible
Posted on 9/15/16 at 12:12 pm to BluegrassBelle
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For instance, a couple summers ago my parent's power was out due to storms in the area for about a week. Something like 90 degree temps. Two of the smaller, more meager churches in the area had members literally walking the neighborhoods handing out cold bottled water and checking on elderly people in the area. The mega church in the area? Nowhere to be seen until it had a guest speaker coming in where member could pay to see him speak. THEN they were canvasing the neighborhood to hand out flyers.
A church is supposed to be part of the community and to help nurture that community. It certainly seems like some of these mega churches are in it for the money and classism.
While I agree with all of this Belle, larger churches do have larger resources to help neighborhoods. Southland, one of largest churches in Kentucky is heavily invested in the Lexington area, doing many ministries to help those in need, and I'm sure Southeast does similar in Louisville, although I'm just guessing a bit based upon what I hear and not that I see it personally.
But, a lot of churches and their leaders do lose their mission as they grow, and that is a huge shame. They will answer for this at some point. I left the last church I was serving at because I believed we were moving in a direction contrary to what I believe Scripture says a church is to be focused on.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 12:14 pm to OweO
Not sure
But followers of MAGA churches are white and deplorable
But followers of MAGA churches are white and deplorable
Posted on 9/15/16 at 12:18 pm to BluegrassBelle
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A church is supposed to be part of the community and to help nurture that community. It certainly seems like some of these mega churches are in it for the money and classism.
That's one thing I will say about Healing Place -- after Hurricane Gustav, they were out handing out blue tarps to people all over Baton Rouge. Good friend of mine got one and he's never stepped in that church. Matter of fact, there were people joking that Healing Place was handing out tarps ahead of FEMA.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 12:33 pm to AUCE05
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It is a complete shame.
At what size congregation does it become a sham?
Posted on 9/15/16 at 12:36 pm to tgrbaitn08
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It's not a business model, it's God showing people that he wants us to be rich and successful....these pastors are our Shepard....they are here spreading the word of God.....
You think God wants us to be poor? Of course not, he loves us, he loves us so much that if we give him 10% of our income, he will return it tenfold
Posted on 9/15/16 at 12:38 pm to kywildcatfanone
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I left the last church I was serving at because I believed we were moving in a direction contrary to what I believe Scripture says a church is to be focused on.
Arguably, any mega church is contrary to what Scripture says a church should be focused on.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 12:39 pm to OweO
A lot of Hindu traditions teach that there are many different paths to God. If someone's personal path includes getting a Lexus, I don't see any reason to begrudge them that. I'm just happy that people are finding spirituality.
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