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re: How important is it for you to own a gun?

Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:02 am to
Posted by retired trucker
midwest
Member since Feb 2015
5093 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:02 am to
weak azzed argument

are you a communist/soclialist/collectivist?

that's their schtick to unarm americans!

you don't have one drop of republic in you. pretty sad.

you suck...
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
108741 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:02 am to
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I'm not advocating taking your weapons.


You said that you had no problem with the government taking away your guns.

Probably why you got downvoted, fricking Communist.
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
16096 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:02 am to
Depends on what you are defending, a compound or a home? In an urban setting a long range assault rifle could do more damage than in necessary. It could kill your neighbors as a bystander. A shotgun has better tactical use with lower threats to bystanders.

We have a thing in our military strategy, it is called proportional response. It is a matter of what is a reasonable amount of fire power for the average citizen to legitimately apply in self defense?
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11102 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:03 am to
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Just because you, a functioning retard, don't see the "need" for something doesn't mean it's not necessary. I don't see the need for motorized carts at grocery stores... but then again I don't use them.


You sir, are a true fricking American hero
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:03 am to
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You said that you had no problem with the government taking away your guns.

i wouldn't be to upset to have my AR taken away. I like my AR but it's not my personal defense weapon.
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11102 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:04 am to
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i wouldn't be to upset to have my AR taken away


That is because you are a pussy
Posted by bofa
Pride, LA
Member since Dec 2015
147 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:04 am to
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There are truly evil people in the world who have a tactical application that leaves a wake of dead bodies


And these people will get their hands on "assault" weapons whether you make them illegal or not. Making a law will not stop a criminal, which would be why they are considered a criminal.

Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11102 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:07 am to
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Depends on what you are defending, a compound or a home? In an urban setting a long range assault rifle could do more damage than in necessary. It could kill your neighbors as a bystander. A shotgun has better tactical use with lower threats to bystanders.

We have a thing in our military strategy, it is called proportional response. It is a matter of what is a reasonable amount of fire power for the average citizen to legitimately apply in self defense?


I own an ACR. I like the way it looks. I like to go to the gun range to get out of the house and have a break from the wife and kids. I purchased the "assault" weapon, not because I'm a crazed, gun toting, right wing extremist. I purchased it because I liked the way it looked, because I wanted it, and because I could. And you know why I could??? Because I live in America.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14031 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:08 am to
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In an urban setting a long range assault rifle could do more damage than in necessary. It could kill your neighbors as a bystander. A shotgun has better tactical use with lower threats to bystanders.


not necessarily, a .223/5.56 will tumble and keyhole after penetrating a couple sheets of sheetrock limiting its range. Buckshoot from a shotgun will penetrate many layers of sheetrock and just keep going.
This post was edited on 3/1/16 at 9:10 am
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
16096 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:10 am to
The goal is not the total elimination of a threat, that is unreasonable. The goal is the reduction in the potential threats. The fact is that criminal elements don't do mass murder of innocents, they use their weapons to kill other criminals mostly, and cops. Cops are often out gunned in drug arrests and bank robberies. That is a matter of law enforcement but the ability of any lunatic or radical extremist to acquire AR is the problem. Gun control could reduce that probability.
Posted by yallallcrazy
Member since Oct 2007
761 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:11 am to
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Why do we need weapons that are not for self defense nor sport


Seriously, define what the mechanical issue is with the AR as opposed to something like a typical duck hunting shotgun or a typical .22 rifle that most of us shot at kids.

That is the issue. They are essentially the same thing mechanically. The AR is defined by its modular nature, not the mechanics of how it fires.
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
108741 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:15 am to
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Cops are often out gunned in drug arrests and bank robberies.


Can you tell us the percentage of cop shootouts where the criminal element used an AR?

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That is a matter of law enforcement but the ability of any lunatic or radical extremist to acquire AR is the problem.


Do you realize how many other rifles are out there that don't look scary but have the same abilities as an AR? You're still basing your entire argument on how something looks. Just like the idiotic liberal politicians... spewing shite out of your mouth without knowing any real information.
Posted by Mootsman
Charlotte, NC
Member since Oct 2012
6024 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:16 am to
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Your worst troll yet.


That's saying a lot.
Posted by Rockbrc
Attic
Member since Nov 2015
7916 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:17 am to
Make that gunS
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28343 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:20 am to
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lunatics or radical extremists

Yes, they follow gun laws closely.

shite-spewing dumbfrick.
Posted by rd280z
Richmond
Member since Jan 2007
2309 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:23 am to
I own guns and feel it is important that I have them. I do not hunt either.
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
16096 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:24 am to
Despite what you think, I am not unreasonable. I think most anti-NRA types are pushing too far in gun control. The finish of your gun is not the point, make it look sexy. Now if you can carry around a bag full of 15+ round magazines then it is excessive. The mechanism aren't the point, but the mags are. I would be okay with you having a bad arse looking rifle with no more than a few rounds in the clip. Dude if you can't hit your game in 3 shots it is time to call it a day.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:26 am to
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Depends on what you are defending, a compound or a home? In an urban setting a long range assault rifle could do more damage than in necessary

Why does it depend?

"Long range assault rifle" is a new one for me

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It could kill your neighbors as a bystander. A shotgun has better tactical use with lower threats to bystanders.


Yeah, having multiple .38 cal projectiles per shot flying around are much better than one round

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called proportional response. It is a matter of what is a reasonable amount of fire power for the average citizen to legitimately apply in self defense?

This isn't the military. I'm not fighting fair when someone is trying to attack myself or my family.

You clearly have no clue what you're talking about.
Posted by SDTiger15
lost in Cali
Member since Jan 2005
11373 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:28 am to
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The goal is not the total elimination of a threat, that is unreasonable. The goal is the reduction in the potential threats. The fact is that criminal elements don't do mass murder of innocents, they use their weapons to kill other criminals mostly, and cops. Cops are often out gunned in drug arrests and bank robberies. That is a matter of law enforcement but the ability of any lunatic or radical extremist to acquire AR is the problem. Gun control could reduce that probability.


Yes because there are currently NO laws limiting guns and NO laws that specifically target keeping guns out of the hands of "lunatics' and 'extremists'.

You are so ignorant on this subject it is sad. Just google "gun control laws', print them out and start reading. It may take you a month to read through all of the gun laws already on the books.

If our government would just enforce those laws to the fullest extent, we would see a very positive result of keeping guns out of the hands of criminals.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14031 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:31 am to
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Dude if you can't hit your game in 3 shots it is time to call it a day.


The 2nd Amendment has absolutely nothing to with hunting.
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