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Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:02 am to meauxjeaux2
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I'm not advocating taking your weapons.
You said that you had no problem with the government taking away your guns.
Probably why you got downvoted, fricking Communist.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:02 am to upgrayedd
Depends on what you are defending, a compound or a home? In an urban setting a long range assault rifle could do more damage than in necessary. It could kill your neighbors as a bystander. A shotgun has better tactical use with lower threats to bystanders.
We have a thing in our military strategy, it is called proportional response. It is a matter of what is a reasonable amount of fire power for the average citizen to legitimately apply in self defense?
We have a thing in our military strategy, it is called proportional response. It is a matter of what is a reasonable amount of fire power for the average citizen to legitimately apply in self defense?
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:03 am to terd ferguson
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Just because you, a functioning retard, don't see the "need" for something doesn't mean it's not necessary. I don't see the need for motorized carts at grocery stores... but then again I don't use them.
You sir, are a true fricking American hero
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:03 am to terd ferguson
quote:i wouldn't be to upset to have my AR taken away. I like my AR but it's not my personal defense weapon.
You said that you had no problem with the government taking away your guns.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:04 am to meauxjeaux2
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i wouldn't be to upset to have my AR taken away
That is because you are a pussy
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:04 am to rebeloke
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There are truly evil people in the world who have a tactical application that leaves a wake of dead bodies
And these people will get their hands on "assault" weapons whether you make them illegal or not. Making a law will not stop a criminal, which would be why they are considered a criminal.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:07 am to rebeloke
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Depends on what you are defending, a compound or a home? In an urban setting a long range assault rifle could do more damage than in necessary. It could kill your neighbors as a bystander. A shotgun has better tactical use with lower threats to bystanders.
We have a thing in our military strategy, it is called proportional response. It is a matter of what is a reasonable amount of fire power for the average citizen to legitimately apply in self defense?
I own an ACR. I like the way it looks. I like to go to the gun range to get out of the house and have a break from the wife and kids. I purchased the "assault" weapon, not because I'm a crazed, gun toting, right wing extremist. I purchased it because I liked the way it looked, because I wanted it, and because I could. And you know why I could??? Because I live in America.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:08 am to rebeloke
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In an urban setting a long range assault rifle could do more damage than in necessary. It could kill your neighbors as a bystander. A shotgun has better tactical use with lower threats to bystanders.
not necessarily, a .223/5.56 will tumble and keyhole after penetrating a couple sheets of sheetrock limiting its range. Buckshoot from a shotgun will penetrate many layers of sheetrock and just keep going.
This post was edited on 3/1/16 at 9:10 am
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:10 am to bofa
The goal is not the total elimination of a threat, that is unreasonable. The goal is the reduction in the potential threats. The fact is that criminal elements don't do mass murder of innocents, they use their weapons to kill other criminals mostly, and cops. Cops are often out gunned in drug arrests and bank robberies. That is a matter of law enforcement but the ability of any lunatic or radical extremist to acquire AR is the problem. Gun control could reduce that probability.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:11 am to rebeloke
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Why do we need weapons that are not for self defense nor sport
Seriously, define what the mechanical issue is with the AR as opposed to something like a typical duck hunting shotgun or a typical .22 rifle that most of us shot at kids.
That is the issue. They are essentially the same thing mechanically. The AR is defined by its modular nature, not the mechanics of how it fires.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:15 am to rebeloke
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Cops are often out gunned in drug arrests and bank robberies.
Can you tell us the percentage of cop shootouts where the criminal element used an AR?
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That is a matter of law enforcement but the ability of any lunatic or radical extremist to acquire AR is the problem.
Do you realize how many other rifles are out there that don't look scary but have the same abilities as an AR? You're still basing your entire argument on how something looks. Just like the idiotic liberal politicians... spewing shite out of your mouth without knowing any real information.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:16 am to Scruffy
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Your worst troll yet.
That's saying a lot.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:20 am to rebeloke
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lunatics or radical extremists
Yes, they follow gun laws closely.
shite-spewing dumbfrick.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:23 am to rebeloke
I own guns and feel it is important that I have them. I do not hunt either.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:24 am to terd ferguson
Despite what you think, I am not unreasonable. I think most anti-NRA types are pushing too far in gun control. The finish of your gun is not the point, make it look sexy. Now if you can carry around a bag full of 15+ round magazines then it is excessive. The mechanism aren't the point, but the mags are. I would be okay with you having a bad arse looking rifle with no more than a few rounds in the clip. Dude if you can't hit your game in 3 shots it is time to call it a day.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:26 am to rebeloke
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Depends on what you are defending, a compound or a home? In an urban setting a long range assault rifle could do more damage than in necessary
Why does it depend?
"Long range assault rifle" is a new one for me
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It could kill your neighbors as a bystander. A shotgun has better tactical use with lower threats to bystanders.
Yeah, having multiple .38 cal projectiles per shot flying around are much better than one round
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called proportional response. It is a matter of what is a reasonable amount of fire power for the average citizen to legitimately apply in self defense?
This isn't the military. I'm not fighting fair when someone is trying to attack myself or my family.
You clearly have no clue what you're talking about.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:28 am to rebeloke
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The goal is not the total elimination of a threat, that is unreasonable. The goal is the reduction in the potential threats. The fact is that criminal elements don't do mass murder of innocents, they use their weapons to kill other criminals mostly, and cops. Cops are often out gunned in drug arrests and bank robberies. That is a matter of law enforcement but the ability of any lunatic or radical extremist to acquire AR is the problem. Gun control could reduce that probability.
Yes because there are currently NO laws limiting guns and NO laws that specifically target keeping guns out of the hands of "lunatics' and 'extremists'.
You are so ignorant on this subject it is sad. Just google "gun control laws', print them out and start reading. It may take you a month to read through all of the gun laws already on the books.
If our government would just enforce those laws to the fullest extent, we would see a very positive result of keeping guns out of the hands of criminals.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:31 am to rebeloke
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Dude if you can't hit your game in 3 shots it is time to call it a day.
The 2nd Amendment has absolutely nothing to with hunting.
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