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how far out would be trying to transform a "dead" planet be?

Posted on 10/16/16 at 11:34 am
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 11:34 am
My silly question of the week:

I don't know if either say Mars or Venus are in that "goldilocks zone".

But if they were, how far out would it be to try to reintroduce life on one of them or on another planet in the zone somewhere? I'm sure it would be more than just introducing water since comets hitting them probably do that from time to time (granted, probably not often).

But I'm guessing there would need to be some type of atmosphere and I'm not sure how those come about.
This post was edited on 10/16/16 at 7:08 pm
Posted by LEASTBAY
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 11:37 am to
Part of it has to do with gravity. I would think atmosphere would be the hardest thing to overcome.
Posted by chRxis
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 11:44 am to
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I don't know if either say Mars or Venus are in that "goldilocks zone".

really?? how do you NOT know this?

it's pretty simple.... does the planet in question have liquid water and an atmosphere that can sustain life? if not, it's inhabitable for human life... period
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 11:47 am to
Well there's a lot of factors involved that make each planet unique. Mars for instance we have most of the technology we'd need to terraform it, with greenhouse gases, trees, and redirecting large meteors to the surface, but there's one major problem we haven't addressed: it doesn't have a magnetosphere. How we'll do that I have no idea.

Venus requires vastly superior technology compared to what is required for Mars. We have to pump out billions of tons of its atmosphere and then try and stabilize the planet. Mars (save for the magnetosphere) you mostly just have to pump in stuff that is readily avaliable. Venus would require vast changes to the planet. It's plausible we could terraform Venus, but I would think it'd take thousands of years to do so. Mars probably 400 years or so.
This post was edited on 10/16/16 at 11:51 am
Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 11:52 am to
Venus would be harder than mars. Its almost 900 degrees on Venus which is hotter than on mercury.

Mars is our best shot as far as we go. First stages would be building into the planet. Like in the original total recall
Posted by foshizzle
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 11:53 am to
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it doesn't have a magnetosphere. How we'll do that I have no idea.


Simple. Just put a big magnet in the center of the planet. Problem solved.

If that seems overly difficult, then free all the iron from the iron oxide on the surface and put that in the center.
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 11:56 am to
Supposedly you can heat up Mars to create a magnetic field. How to sustainably do that below the mantle, I have no idea. Small magnetic fields are possible, but large scale, it's too power intensive
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 12:04 pm to
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Venus would be harder than mars. Its almost 900 degrees on Venus which is hotter than on mercury.



Not to mention a day on Venus literally lasts longer than a year there. We'd have to great speed up its rotation, which would burn more energy than the rest of the project combined.
Posted by colorchangintiger
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 12:09 pm to
Really need a magnetosphere before anything else. Otherwise solar winds will strip the planet of its atmosphere. Mars does not have a magnetosphere.
Posted by Grim
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 12:09 pm to
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Science board - how far out would be trying to transform a "dead" planet be?

It's gonna be ok man. Lots of guys get cheated on
Posted by leveedogs
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 2:35 pm to
Curiosity Stream has got you covered if you seriously want to know.

LINK
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 3:57 pm to
Its relatively trivial to do. We've had the ability for decades
Posted by The Baker
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 3:59 pm to
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Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 4:21 pm to
The spice must flow
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 4:28 pm to
It would need to have a magnetic field to protect us from solar radiation. Then you can just nuke the polar ice caps if it has them to melt all the ice and voila.
Posted by Bmath
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 4:32 pm to
Mars has no magnetosphere. This would make things difficult for establishing life from earth.
Posted by LanierSpots
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 5:05 pm to
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how far out would be trying to transform a "dead" planet be?



Just need the Genesis device. Your good



Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 6:18 pm to
Technically, Earth's not in the Goldilocks zone either...
Posted by rbWarEagle
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 6:29 pm to
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Venus is our best bet at terraforming.

Mars will always be a wasteland.


Elon Musk disagrees with you. Thermonuclear bombs at both poles.
Posted by Notro
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 6:36 pm to
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how far out would be trying to transform a "dead" planet be?


Not hard to do at all bro....you just need to decolonize your mind and try some black magic.
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