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re: Home burglar shot dead in Carrolton Area of Uptown NOLA

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Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 3:20 pm to
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What was the I-10 built on top of?

Hint* why does West End have that really wide neutral ground?


Sorry, I meant 90. Or at least the bridge. Was it anything west of Lee Circle? In which case that changes some things.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 3:25 pm to
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. Was it anything west of Lee Circle?


I have a really old Map of NOLA. Tivoli Circle has always been in the area we call downtown or more specifically it's at the boundary of the CBD and the warehouse district. There used to be a canal that ran from the river to the lake, the ponchartrain expressway was built on top of it.




Another canal was to be built separating the "new" city from the old city, but it was never built and the land set aside for it became canal street.


Uptown annexed the Jefferson Parish city of Carrolton which included Hollygrove. It is uptown, but it's not "Uptown".
This post was edited on 11/13/14 at 3:27 pm
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 3:26 pm to
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Tivoli Circle


What dis is?
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 3:28 pm to
Lee Circle.

Pree 1884 maps show it as Tivoli circle, so if he were to look at old maps that is the name used.
In 1884 when the monument was built the circle was changed to Lee Circle.

Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 3:30 pm to
Just found this site. Old New Orleans

Interesting stuff.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 3:38 pm to
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There used to be a canal that ran from the river to the lake,


Are you 100% certain it ran all the way to the river?
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 3:43 pm to
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Are you 100% certain it ran all the way to the river?



a long long time ago. But then it was filled in, and ended in a basin. Hence the name "NEW Basin canal"
I think before that it had some French name.

But yes, in the real old days of sailing, you couldn't vome up the Mississippi in a ship,you had to go through lake borgne and then into Ponchartrain and then take Bayou St john into the city. At that time the Bayou was much bigger and was a natural Lake to river water way.

People dug many news canals, the New Basin being the largest.

It's end was actually at the foot of Rampart st.
But Canals started to get filled in en mass when the Yellow fever epidemic broke out. Though the New Basin was around partially until the middle of the 20th century.





Posted by Red Stick Tigress
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 3:43 pm to
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Carrolton is Uptown.

Garden District is Uptown

Central City is Uptown.



I consider anything in Orleans up river from downtown (from near Claiborne to the river) to be part of Uptown.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 3:47 pm to
Learn something new everyday. Had never heard of a Canal that connected all the way to the lake that went past Rampart St (hence the name)
Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 3:48 pm to
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I consider anything in Orleans up river from downtown (from near Claiborne to the river) to be part of Uptown.


What if it was once part of Jefferson Parish ?
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 3:53 pm to
there was another way from the lake to the river that we learned about in Louisiana History, that has since been closed up. I think it's through Lake Maurepas, and by Tickfaw.

But yes, when the walls (Ramparts) to the city were built, canals butted up to them.


I know one of the canals became Esplanade avenue, I think the Carondolet canal.

I need to find my book. I have a New Orleans History book for the 1880's with come cool maps and stuff in it.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 3:59 pm to
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there was another way from the lake to the river that we learned about in Louisiana History, that has since been closed up. I think it's through Lake Maurepas, and by Tickfaw.



It was up Maurepas - Amite River - Bayou Manchac to what is now Willow Glen power plant.

Bayou Manchac was actually dredged to help larger ships and was only available through parts of the year.


The Willow Glen site was where New Orleans was supposed to be founded, but through some reason (I think distance) was unintentionally built where it sits today on the high ground. I will see if I can find the documentation to back that up, it has been years since I went looking for it.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 4:00 pm to
Wasn't Claiborne a canal?
Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 4:07 pm to
Was a governor
Posted by tgrbaitn08
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 4:07 pm to
Y'all have ruined an already shitty thread.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

quote:
there was another way from the lake to the river that we learned about in Louisiana History, that has since been closed up. I think it's through Lake Maurepas, and by Tickfaw.


It was up Maurepas - Amite River - Bayou Manchac to what is now Willow Glen power plant.

Bayou Manchac was actually dredged to help larger ships and was only available through parts of the year.


There's an old legend that says one of Columbus' ships made it up into Bayou Manchac. It's the source of the name for the Santa Maria development in BR.
Posted by Winkface
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 4:12 pm to
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Y'all have ruined an already shitty thread.
100%. it should be blown up and started over.


Btw, he was arrested.
Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 4:13 pm to
I actually like this thread.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 4:14 pm to
Thread nazis are the worst.
Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 4:15 pm to
That lil Santa Maria nugget you dropped was nice.
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