re: Holy horsepower wars: Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat: 707 HP

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it just might if by chance it doesn't break down before it reaches the traps.

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It went 10.8 on radials and 11.2 on street tires on a hot summer day.

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Will be fun to see the dealer mark up.

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I'm not expecting one. Not something Chrysler normally does, and I'm sure they'll be making decent quantities of the Hellcat...I'm sure a few dealers will try for sure though.

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Bump for price: 707hp for $59,990. LINK And 199 mph top speed. LINK

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That's not bad. 60k for 700 hp.
What's not to like?

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Bugatti Veyron, 1,001 hp, $1.3 million Bugatti Veyron Grand Sport, 1,001 hp, $1,980,000 Bugatti Veyron SuperSport, 1,200 hp, $2,426,904 Bugatti Veyron Grand Sport Vitesse, 1,200 hp, $2.6 million

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LOL at the losers who bought the base model.

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$60k is about the price of many trucks and Tahoes/Suburbans, which are quintessential middle class rides.

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Eh...close, but not really.

$60k is the going rate for a moderately equipped 3/4 ton truck...or a top of the line 1/2 ton (King Ranch, Denali, Laramie Longhorn). Same for SUV's.

But that is all besides the point. 707hp/650tq for $60k is stupidly affordable.

A diesel king ranch is more of a status symbol than a challenger

Why you ranking out my ride, man?




The new Z06 will have 650hp/650tq, but here's the kicker; 5 yr/100K powertrain warranty. That's gonna be a stout engine.

Hot laps in the Hellcat.

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Probably won't be too many buyers. I rather just stick with the Corvette Stingray.

interesting numbers:

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So far this year, Porsche has managed to move 5,169 911s, according to NADA. Considering that the base model starts at nearly $15,000 more than the most heavily optioned Stingray, and that Porsche owners have a vast, expensive options catalogue to select from, Stuttgart's sales are still plenty impressive in relation to the nearly 18,000 Corvettes sold.

The Viper, though, continues to simply flounder. With a starting price of $102,485 for a base model and $124,985 for the GTS, the Viper doesn't cover as vast a pricing range as the 911, but with only 354 units sold as of last month so far this year, it's far, far behind either the Porsche or the Corvette.

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Probably won't be too many buyers. I rather just stick with the Corvette Stingray.

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Won't be many buyers? Based on what? And very few will be cross shopping a Hellcat and a Stingray. They have a similar price, two doors and a V8 in common. That's about it...very different vehicles.

The Challenger is already one of Dodge's better selling vehicles and has a high customer retention rate. Give it 707hp/650tq, a warranty, and a $60k price tag and they will sell every single Hellcat they make.

The Viper's sluggish sales are a bit surprising. Personally, I think people are just put off by name change and the premium price they come at now...though they've always been expensive compared to the Vette...and thankfully they are back under the Dodge badge. It's always been a bit more exclusive and raw lol. The anodized carbon edition Viper T/A is really badass, would love to have one of those.