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re: High credit score = no assistance from FEMA

Posted on 8/24/16 at 10:54 am to
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 10:54 am to
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- Timeline:
--- Saturday Aug 13th: I applied online for FEMA assistance
--- Wednesday Aug 17th: FEMA inspection (this was the first day I could even get to my home)
--- Thursday Aug 18th: Approval letter from FEMA detailing grant amount
--- Friday Aug 19th: Funds show up in my bank account
--- Saturday Aug 20th: 2nd FEMA inspection. 2 adjusters followed up to verify original findings

We got over $20k in assistance. And I'm going to appeal that to hopefully get more.
Posted by ZekeTheTeke
Member since Sep 2014
1241 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 10:54 am to
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However, that is a risk you chose.


It's not like most people were just barely out of a flood zone. I was on a 500 year plain and got 3' of water. It's more of a risk that I drive through N. BR to get home sometimes.

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And now, you want the government to bail you out for that risk.


I'm a taxpayer. This is why I pay taxes. Are you going to decline your social security pension when you retire? Or are you just talking shite?
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
108745 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 10:54 am to
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But anyone that has lived in S. Louisiana for 3-4 years and didn't have flood insurance was taking a gamble. You live in a place with water all around you.



It wasn't about the water around you. It was about the 2 feet of rain in 24 hours. You could live just about anywhere and 2 feet of fricking water pouring from the sky is gonna cause flooding.
This post was edited on 8/24/16 at 10:55 am
Posted by swanny297
NELA
Member since Oct 2013
2189 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 10:55 am to
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But anyone that has lived in S. Louisiana for 3-4 years and didn't have flood insurance was taking a gamble.
taking a gamble on A 500yr flood due unprecedented rainfall is a lot different than being below sea level, surrounded by water and not choosing to carry flood insurance. We live in NELA and who could have anticipated the flooding that occurred in our area in March, there were areas flooded that had never historically been under water. The point is FEMA is set up to provide federal aid that we all send tax dollars to every year, you shouldn't be penalized based on credit score or income level, your neighbor that has an impeccable credit record and makes twice as much as you lost everything as well.
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
85011 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 10:55 am to
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Isabelle81

Is it wrong for me to wish that somehow, your house becomes infested with black mold, wreaking havoc on the life of you and your family, and you find out you have never taken out the additional coverage for it, and your life is ruined? Because your posts make hope for this on you, in the strongest way possible.
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
108745 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 10:58 am to
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I'm a taxpayer. This is why I pay taxes.


I don't see how some people can't understand this. Why in the hell are people required to have a chunk of their paycheck allotted to support government programs that don't offer them anything in return?

This isn't people asking for a handout. It's people asking for a return on the money they've been sending in year after year.
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90530 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 10:59 am to
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What if the levee that holds back the Mississippi River breached because of undermining. There is a lot of water in that river. One would think the possibility of a levee breach would always be a consideration for those who live near rivers.


Yea I guess thats a possibility. I mean anything is possible when you are speaking that broadly.

Now I am paying insurance for an event that happens because of the failure of the army corps of engineers and the river commission.


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Do people not realize that the money spent on purchasing a home is an investment?


Yea I'm pretty sure every homeowner realizes their home is an investment.




If I made a thread 2 months ago asking if I should buy flood insurance, and I included that I did not live in a flood zone and all the other info how it wasnt required, the answers would be much different than today. I would guess 50% or more of the responses would be that it wasnt needed, considering how many people didnt carry flood insurance as evidenced by this storm.

Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34320 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 11:00 am to
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So I just spent an hour on the phone with FEMA. Basically, if you have a high credit score, you will qualify for an SBA Loan, which means you are inelegible to receive a grant from FEMA.

The only way to receive a FEMA grant is not to qualify for a loan.


This is patently false.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48375 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 11:02 am to
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Here's my exact situation and exactly what I was told on the phone:


Thank you for clarifying my point, and the OP's point.

Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 11:02 am to
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I don't see how some people can't understand this. Why in the hell are people required to have a chunk of their paycheck allotted to support government programs that don't offer them anything in return?

This isn't people asking for a handout. It's people asking for a return on the money they've been sending in year after year.
lets go get our DSNAP Weeziana purchase cards breh. Let's go buy us some motherfrickin lobsters an shite wif em and dance all the way out to our loaded oud 2016 Sierra 2500 Denalis.
This post was edited on 8/24/16 at 11:03 am
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
108745 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 11:02 am to
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To make matters more ironic, we are complaining about low interest loans, and demanding free grant money.


I'd like you to give me 20% of your pay every week. I'll hold it in a fund in case you ever need anything in an emergency... but instead of just giving you back a little of it to cover expenses I'll loan you back your money at a small rate of interest.
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90530 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 11:04 am to
I dont get it either. The whole 'oh all yall do is bitch about govt handouts on here' is bullshite. I see no problem with someone that has been working and paying taxes for 30 years to get help in this situation.

Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
108745 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 11:04 am to
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lets go get our DSNAP Weeziana purchase cards brew. Let's go buy us some motherfrickin lobsters an shite wif em and dance all the way out to our loaded oud 2016 Sierra 2500 Denalis


That quote would lead me to believe that you already receive regular SNAP benefits... which means you automatically get DSNAP! Don't worry about signing up or waiting in line. We'll just add it to the free shite you already get every month!
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 11:05 am to
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That quote would lead me to believe that you already receive regular SNAP benefits... which means you automatically get DSNAP!
wiat what? I've been waiting in this motherfrickin line here in Walker for 3 damn hours now and you're saying i didn't have to?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37106 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 11:05 am to
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It's not like most people were just barely out of a flood zone. I was on a 500 year plain and got 3' of water. It's more of a risk that I drive through N. BR to get home sometimes.


That 500 year crap needs to GTFO. You may not live on or near water, but when you have that amount of rain, everything is going to back up, even if you are far away from a body of water.

Floods are not covered by homeowners insurance. Not having flood insurance is thus a hole, a risk that one has decided to self-insure. It may be a perfectly acceptable risk in your mind. But now, you want others to pay for the fact that you decided to self-insure, except, you didn't actually self-insure.

This, my friend, is no different than any other sort of bailout.

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Are you going to decline your social security pension when you retire? Or are you just talking shite?


I'm in my 30s and have fully accepted that there will be no social security payments available for me when I retire, if I ever get to actually retire. Or, they will be so small that it will be a joke.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37106 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 11:06 am to
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It wasn't about the water around you. It was about the 2 feet of rain in 24 hours. You could live just about anywhere and 2 feet of fricking water pouring from the sky is gonna cause flooding.


You just made an argument that everyone is at risk for flooding and everyone should consider transferring that risk via flood insurance.

Which I totally agree with!!!!
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37106 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 11:07 am to
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The point is FEMA is set up to provide federal aid that we all send tax dollars to every year, you shouldn't be penalized based on credit score or income level, your neighbor that has an impeccable credit record and makes twice as much as you lost everything as well.


Well it's good then that this "theory" has been disproven.
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
108745 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 11:07 am to
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govt handouts


IMO = not putting into the system but you take from the system

What we're talking about here are people that pay in their entire lives with money they earn by going to work everyday. Then comes an emergency situation which is the entire reason a program like FEMA even exists and they're offered a loan.

You could have taken that money that went to FEMA, put it into a savings account/emergency fund, and had it available without having to apply for a loan and pay interest on the funds.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37106 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 11:08 am to
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This isn't people asking for a handout. It's people asking for a return on the money they've been sending in year after year.


Louisiana already gets a "return" in excess of what we pay in federal taxes.

FEMA money is a handout. It's ok. I'm not opposed to it. But call it what it is.
Posted by Isabelle81
NEW ORLEANS, LA
Member since Sep 2015
2718 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 11:08 am to
Festus, that won't happen. It is really not good to wish the worst on others. Some of us have been through more than others. Think before you post.
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