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re: Heroin deaths up 23% in one year
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:32 am to LSU alum wannabe
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:32 am to LSU alum wannabe
I'm not disputing what you say, but don't narcotics become dangerous when the person has to increase the dose over time in order to get the same relief?
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Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:32 am to SuperSaint
Isn't that the truth
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:36 am to SabiDojo
Yes. Narcotics have to be increased to continue to "work".
Is that it's effect on pain receptors? Or is that the lack of the effect of euphoria and the "high". A tolerance? Basically I feel if you've reached the point of tolerance you've reached the point of misuse.
Is that it's effect on pain receptors? Or is that the lack of the effect of euphoria and the "high". A tolerance? Basically I feel if you've reached the point of tolerance you've reached the point of misuse.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:38 am to LSU alum wannabe
Yeah, so basically you shouldn't prescribe it for someone who deals with chronic pain, right? Because if it's pain that will never go away, then you're basically dooming them to addiction.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 12:12 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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orrect use of heroin is a little bit of an exaggeration. Heroin is not made by Bayer anymore. It's a street drug cut with lord knows what and dirty.
Thats my point. There is no proper use for heroin. Its a street drug that the user is gonna lose control over.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 12:21 pm to SabiDojo
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Yeah, so basically you shouldn't prescribe it for someone who deals with chronic pain, right? Because if it's pain that will never go away, then you're basically dooming them to addiction.
Wish we had a doc on here who is a legit responsible guy, and not a pill mill dude.
If your quality of life is dogshit due to a chronic condition? Closely monitored medication regimens are appropriate I feel.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 12:27 pm to theenemy
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Thats my point. There is no proper use for heroin. Its a street drug that the user is gonna lose control over.
Yep. No argument here.
Use of opiates can be done properly.
I just think the spike of overdoses in the OP is a direct result of government stepping on their own dick. Something needed to be done. Making hydrocodone a triplicate was not it. It drove heroin out of the gutters and into the burbs.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 12:27 pm to LSU alum wannabe
I deal with pain a lot and I refuse to get on that stuff. Unfortunately, I just deal with it
Posted on 12/11/16 at 12:30 pm to LSU alum wannabe
I know a couple guys with chronic pain that their doctor switched them to methadone for the pain and it is working for them.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 12:33 pm to SabiDojo
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deal with pain a lot and I refuse to get on that stuff. Unfortunately, I just deal with it
Good for you. If you think you have it in you to be "pill guy" then it is something to stay away from. Nothing wrong with sucking it up. Within reason. Taking a Vicodin for horrible pain doesn't make you Heath Ledger.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 12:49 pm to LSU alum wannabe
I'm not worried about addiction, honestly. Drugs never really got a hold of me. I just don't like taking stuff that you have to be so careful in monitoring.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 1:54 pm to SuperSaint
I watched a normally good person get hooked on heroin and, only months in, destroy the professional life of a person that genuinely tried to help her. It was one of the most depressing things I've ever seen. She destroyed him to get back with the people that brought her to addiction's door step. An absolutely gorgeous OT 8.7 with a bachelors degree and masters from Rice. Just pissed it all away and took him with her.
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Posted on 12/11/16 at 1:55 pm to TigahRag
That is fricking depressing.
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Posted on 12/11/16 at 2:00 pm to SabiDojo
I've had coke heads and crack heads aplenty working for me. Heroin addicts are just fricking shitty. I liked Roger The Shrubber's post earlier in the thread about the cerebral damage addiction does. She'll never be the same. Heroin robs you of the chance to be who you were supposed to be and others of the person they once loved.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 2:02 pm to TigahRag
Maybe the govt should hand out free Adderall to keep people off of heroin.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 2:02 pm to TigahRag
Yeah the prefrontal cortex is basically shot. It is a medical issue.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 2:25 pm to SabiDojo
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Yeah the prefrontal cortex is basically shot. It is a medical issue.
wellbutrin has worked well for me after i got off opiates... and gabapentin at night for RLS...
i'm now to the point, 3+ clean, that i forget taking either one for days at a time and i don't really have much effect...
Posted on 12/11/16 at 2:28 pm to chRxis
What's the cost of all of that ?
Posted on 12/11/16 at 4:30 pm to TigahRag
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What's the cost of all of that ?
of all what? bupropion and gabapentin are both generic medications... probably pretty cheap, even without insurance...
Posted on 12/11/16 at 4:48 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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Heroin deaths up 23% in one yearThat's great news. The fewer degenerates in this country the better.
You'll say the same thing when your kid becomes an addict and either dies or kills you with their addiction. You know how I know your kid will? Because you obviously don't have anyone close to you who has had a real addiction and just by simple statistics that leaves your offspring will definitely have issues. I think I'll say "couldn't happen to a nicer person" when it happens to you. dipshit
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