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Here's Another Cop Thread to Debate: Wichita Kansas No Knock Raid

Posted on 2/18/15 at 9:52 am
Posted by Vinny V
Kenna Brah
Member since Jun 2011
3837 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 9:52 am
Since the last cop thread turned into an argument about two peoples life experiences at reggies and fights.

No knock raids are bullshite. People tend to use the argument, "Well don't do anything illegal and you don't have to worry." These kids weren't doing anything, and look what happened. Cops just love to use all their fancy military/swat toys.

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The officers had been conducting surveillance on the home, which is near Reflection Ridge, at 21st and Ridge in northwest Wichita. The officers repeatedly asked the men how they were able to pay the rent on such an expensive home.

What the officers did not realize is that Michael Kostelecky’s parents own the home, and that his parents are currently living in Costa Rica, renting the home to their son and two of his friends, Tymony and Houston, who both work for Hog Wild Pit BBQ.

What also may have been unclear to the police department is that the home contains a music studio, and that local artists frequented the home on a daily basis, to record their music.

What the officers did know is that Houston, the son of Goddard’s Chief of Police, had prior drug arrests, and that three young men were living in a home that was beyond their means, and that other young men and women visited the home on a regular basis.

After breaking down the unlocked door, stomping on two men’s necks, and thrashing everything in the two-story home, the officers came away with a single piece of a broken marijuana pipe, which had not been used for years.
Tymony had roughly $300 in his possession, which was from his paycheck from Hog Wild. No drugs, and no weapons were found in the home.

The officers failed to provide a copy of the search warrant to the men at the time of the raid, and a document obtained from the police by Torrie Porter, Tymony’s mother, claims that the warrant was not presented, because there was no one home when the police entered the house, which was not true.
The men found a copy of the warrant on a counter in the home when they returned from being questioned by police. They also found a burning scarf, which had been left on top of a space heater. If they had been detained any longer, the home may have burnt to the ground.
Kansas Exposed reached out to the department for a response to this story, and Captain Doug Nolte informed us that the department has no response at this time, as the department does not comment on ongoing investigations.

Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 9:55 am to
Cops is stupid
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 9:56 am to
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The officers had been conducting surveillance on the home, which is near Reflection Ridge, at 21st and Ridge in northwest Wichita. The officers repeatedly asked the men how they were able to pay the rent on such an expensive home.



That is like a 200k home or less in Wichita Kansas and 3 people were living there, you could swing that on minimum wage.
Posted by Vinny V
Kenna Brah
Member since Jun 2011
3837 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 9:59 am to
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That is like a 200k home or less in Wichita Kansas and 3 people were living there, you could swing that on minimum wage


yeah the pictures in the article doesn't look like some expensive house. Seems like something a typical house an everyday joe would live in.
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
21846 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:06 am to
99% of cops are lower than pig shite

/thread
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:07 am to
That's BS. Now the PD is scrabbling for excuses. Think about the real work they could have been doing. Idiots.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:09 am to
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No Knock Raid


No debate needed. This is an insane violation of one of our most fundamental rights. It is a sickening overreach of government power and there is absolutely no justification for it.
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
17176 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:13 am to
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Cops is stupid


Cop's is stupid**
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110870 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:14 am to
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No debate needed. This is an insane violation of one of our most fundamental rights. It is a sickening overreach of government power and there is absolutely no justification for it.
The no knock raids along with...not sure of the name, but where you can have cash and other items confiscated and never returned to you even if it was never proved that your property was being used for illegal activities.

How those 2 things are actual laws/regulations in America, I'll never know.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:15 am to
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The no knock raids along with...not sure of the name, but where you can have cash and other items confiscated and never returned to you even if it was never proved that your property was being used for illegal activities.


This is how small government conservatives operate.. their own local governments.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:16 am to
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not sure of the name, but where you can have cash and other items confiscated and never returned to you even if it was never proved that your property was being used for illegal activities.


Civil Forfeiture LINK
Posted by CaptainsWafer
TD Platinum Member
Member since Feb 2006
58348 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:17 am to
That's the reason for everytime a dog is shot, a door is busted down, and someone is tazed; cops are just itching to use their equipment for no reason.

Spot on.

Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:19 am to
Do they literally try and find the stupidest people to be cops?

Do you get promoted for being the dumbest one?
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33406 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:23 am to
quote:


How those 2 things are actual laws/regulations in America, I'll never know.


Because "land of the free" is a ridiculous illusion. But you guys keep on cheering loud when those fancy planes fly over the stadium during that line of the national anthem.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110870 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:30 am to
you guys
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:34 am to
The Only Solution Is Another Revolution
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30263 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:45 am to
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The Only Solution Is Another Revolution



That'll never happen. Our population doesn't have the stones for anything like that to occur. Maybe a small local uprising that will be squashed in less than a day, but no full blown revolution will happen in our lifetimes, at least.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33406 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:48 am to
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That'll never happen. Our population doesn't have the stones for anything like that to occur. Maybe a small local uprising that will be squashed in less than a day, but no full blown revolution will happen in our lifetimes, at least.


Not only that...they WANT the cops to be like this.
Posted by 68wDoc68w
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2014
1869 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:48 am to
there seems to be a lot of cop hate in this thread

maybe I should stay away...
This post was edited on 2/18/15 at 10:49 am
Posted by El Magnifico
La casa de tu mamá
Member since Jan 2014
7017 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:54 am to
Plus one of the tenants' mother owns the home and rents it to them. No shite they can afford it
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