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Posted on 9/12/18 at 8:00 am to pensacola
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Her callsign was “Money.”
Money Penney?
Posted on 9/12/18 at 8:07 am to 777Tiger
My dad had a female pilot he worked with in the Air Force with the call sign ‘Mounds’, cause almond joys have nuts and mounds don’t. Maybe my favorite call sign of all times, she was hot too.
Good for her here, but I’m not sure what else she is expected to say or that it is that incredibly heroic. It’s no different than saying a firefighter was a hero for running into a building on fire, it’s dangerous but not necessarily a death sentence.
Good for her here, but I’m not sure what else she is expected to say or that it is that incredibly heroic. It’s no different than saying a firefighter was a hero for running into a building on fire, it’s dangerous but not necessarily a death sentence.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 8:08 am to baldona
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Good for her here, but I’m not sure what else she is expected to say or that it is that incredibly heroic.
agree, got a lot of ink for being a Mounds imo
Posted on 9/12/18 at 8:10 am to pensacola
Easier to say that after fact.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:20 am to baldona
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Good for her here, but I’m not sure what else she is expected to say or that it is that incredibly heroic.
You don't run into a burning building knowing you're going to catch fire. She was going to slam her plane into the airliner. It was her only option and if she died doing it then she was willing to sacrifice herself. That is heroic imo.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:23 am to Broke
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That is heroic imo.
i mean it's not like she got a dick sewed onto her crotch and changed her name to Hector.
This post was edited on 9/12/18 at 9:26 am
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:24 am to Sticky37
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Unfortunately they did not have time to arm the F-16 Vipers before they took off
can anyone in the military tell me why these jets wouldn't readily be loaded for instances like this or any other attack for that matter? what if a foreign country has decided to say, "that's enough of the the US, WE COMIN'".
how are we not ready for something like that?
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:25 am to Sticky37
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Her and her flight lead were scrambled to intercept flight 93 after they lost contact with the cockpit. Unfortunately they did not have time to arm the F-16 Vipers before they took off so the only course of action they had to bring it down was to ram the airliner's control surfaces with their wings and hope to have time to eject after impact. The passengers brought the plane down before they could intercept.
That was one of the more alarming things about 9/11 for me. The people responsible for defending the entire eastern seaboard couldn't muster one armed fighter aircraft fast enough to respond to a surprise air attack.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:27 am to finchmeister08
Wonder if you could fly by very fast, supersonic right in line with 93. Create a vortex and cause Haji to lose control.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:31 am to finchmeister08
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can anyone in the military tell me why these jets wouldn't readily be loaded for instances like this or any other attack for that matter?
I'm sure now they possibly are. But back then it was like securing a rifle. The rifle must stay secured until it's ready to use. It's the same with missles and rockets. They are safeguarded until they are ready to use.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:32 am to Tigeralum2008
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That was one of the more alarming things about 9/11 for me. The people responsible for defending the entire eastern seaboard couldn't muster one armed fighter aircraft fast enough to respond to a surprise air attack.
These were American commercial airliners. You don’t think we’d notice some foreign military aircraft approaching US airspace?
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:33 am to finchmeister08
Alert aircraft prior to 9-11 were very few in numbers, post 9-11 we ramped up alert aircraft.
The aircraft aren't setting on the ramp loaded up for bear day after day.
The aircraft aren't setting on the ramp loaded up for bear day after day.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:37 am to WITNESS23
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I remember hearing about her probably 2 years ago and I couldn't understand how it wasn't a more well known story.
She and her flight lead took off knowing full well they didn't have any option to take it down other than to ram it.
They are heroes in my book
I can't believe I am just hearing about this now. What a great story!
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:38 am to finchmeister08
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can anyone in the military tell me why these jets wouldn't readily be loaded for instances like this or any other attack for that matter? what if a foreign country has decided to say, "that's enough of the US, WE COMIN'".
There would plenty of warning if another country did this, it wouldn't be possible to hide it. No one expected commercial airliners to used and from all accounts, the fog of war was very thick on 9/11.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:39 am to pensacola
I remember seeing this on YouTube.
Could she have headed her jet into the airliner and ejected?
Are the directed to die with the impact? Or is it one of those situations where One doesn’t want to live after slamming into an airliner?
Could she have headed her jet into the airliner and ejected?
Are the directed to die with the impact? Or is it one of those situations where One doesn’t want to live after slamming into an airliner?
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:42 am to Wtodd
I don't know why you're getting so many down votes. This is like a story about a cop after a school shooting who was "about to go" into the building.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:42 am to pensacola
The real heroes were on the plane and actually sacrificed themselves.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:43 am to Sticky37
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Her and her flight lead were scrambled to intercept flight 93 after they lost contact with the cockpit. Unfortunately they did not have time to arm the F-16 Vipers before they took off so the only course of action they had to bring it down was to ram the airliner's control surfaces with their wings and hope to have time to eject after impact. The passengers brought the plane down before they could intercept.
They definitely could've done this successfully and survived IMO.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:44 am to NIH
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This is like a story about a cop after a school shooting who was "about to go" into the building.
Well no. That isn't even remotely a good comparison.
A cop would still be armed and would still have seemingly better options than to just run head first at a shooter.
She took off knowing that her only option was to commit suicide.
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