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re: Have question about race - Simone Manuel (not racist, I don't think)
Posted on 8/12/16 at 8:52 am to rpg37
Posted on 8/12/16 at 8:52 am to rpg37
quote:Agreed. However, media outlets are saying she is the first African-American to win gold in an individual swimming event. That, is actually false. This African-American won gold in the 50m freestyle in 2004
She is black and won a gold medal. That is legit and the story
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Posted on 8/12/16 at 8:53 am to bbvdd
Her come from behind win was beastly
Posted on 8/12/16 at 8:54 am to burdman
quote:She actually isnt though. She is the first black swimmer to win individual gold. She is not the first African-American swimmer to win individual gold
Because she is?
Posted on 8/12/16 at 8:54 am to Hammertime
quote:
If people in Europe are from Africa, they call themselves African. If they are from another country, they call themselves by that country's name.
We just have 315 million retards in this country and most of them couldn't point out Africa on a map
Also, there are plenty of black people in this country with as many or more degrees of separation from the continent of Africa than some white folks.
It just doesn't make sense.
If you are first or second generation African immigrant, great, but call yourself a "Nigerian-American" or something specific.
/off my soapbox
Posted on 8/12/16 at 8:56 am to Displaced
You really think the media saying the "first black american to do _____" is dividing the country?
Posted on 8/12/16 at 8:58 am to rpg37
quote:
I am tired of losing 35% of the population because of stereotypes.
I hope that was sarcasm.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 8:59 am to bbvdd
Watching some white people like y'all get your panties in a twist over the term "African American" on this board never ceases to amuse me 
Personally, I don't have a preference between the two. It's not a huge deal to most AA/black people. Most folks use the terms interchangeably anyways.
Yeah, it can lead to some minor confusions sometimes, but "AA" is still better than most of the prevailing terms it replaced at its advent, IMO.
Personally, I don't have a preference between the two. It's not a huge deal to most AA/black people. Most folks use the terms interchangeably anyways. Yeah, it can lead to some minor confusions sometimes, but "AA" is still better than most of the prevailing terms it replaced at its advent, IMO.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 8:59 am to lsupride87
quote:
She actually isnt though. She is the first black swimmer to win individual gold. She is not the first African-American swimmer to win individual gold
So saying she's the first female AA swimmer to win gold is actually limiting the accomplishment, correct? She's the first black swimmer to win a individual gold period?
Posted on 8/12/16 at 8:59 am to JBeam
quote:No. But I truly think the term African-American is divisive.
You really think the media saying the "first black american to do _____" is dividing the country?
If a Polish person moves to America and has a child, that child will grow up to be know as American and all his kids will too. Instantly Americans
There are black people who have been here for 100s of years and they are still "African-American." It is like a constant moniker that you will never just be American or shite to me. I hate the term personally. I love how America is a melting pot of all countries. So stop with the African bullshite. Simone is a great AMERICAN.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 9:00 am to lsupride87
quote:
This African-American won gold in the 50m freestyle in 2004
It was 2000, but you're right.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 9:00 am to burdman
quote:I believe so yes.
She's the first black swimmer to win a individual gold period?
Posted on 8/12/16 at 9:00 am to lsupride87
quote:
It is like a constant moniker that you will never just be American or shite to me. I hate the term personally.
Sounds like a personal problem
Posted on 8/12/16 at 9:00 am to bbvdd
quote:Are you not agreeing with this? I don't understand your OP's question.
All the news outlets are saying that she's the first African-American swimmer to win a gold.
quote:I'd guess no.
Is she the first black female swimmer?
Posted on 8/12/16 at 9:01 am to lsupride87
quote:Agreed.
So stop with the African bullshite. Simone is a great AMERICAN.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 9:01 am to TbirdSpur2010
quote:
Sounds like a personal problem
I mean it is. Technically any problem is a personal one though right? Posted on 8/12/16 at 9:02 am to shel311
quote:Im not. It is factually wrong
Are you not agreeing with this?
Posted on 8/12/16 at 9:02 am to lsupride87
When we have to continually identify people by their race, and African is not a race, we only promote division.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 9:02 am to TbirdSpur2010
quote:
Sounds like a personal problem
Wouldn't you rather just be referred to as an American?
Posted on 8/12/16 at 9:03 am to lsupride87
Meh I don't use the term AA to describe myself. But Im also not going to categories it as "divisive".
To me it seems like a select group of people are looking for something to be upset about this morning.
To me it seems like a select group of people are looking for something to be upset about this morning.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 9:03 am to bbvdd
It is hard to celebrate an achievement (and this was an achievement) when so many of the articles about it include a lecture.
Part of Yahoo's headline on an article by Jeff Passan is that "our ugly history with black swimmers may be cracking."
Nobody likes a fricking lecture. The media won't let you enjoy someone's success.
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