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Posted on 4/7/17 at 3:36 pm to Hangit
My mistake. I forgot that this was in Oklahoma. Thank you.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 3:42 pm to tigerpimpbot
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She's a hero
"That dog's a hero! We should call him hero."
Navin R. Johnson
Posted on 4/7/17 at 3:45 pm to tigerpimpbot
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She's a hero.
She should be killed like her padnuhs
Posted on 4/7/17 at 3:48 pm to StrongSafety
quote:Damn dude, that is a whole lot of stupidity in one post.
StrongSafety
Posted on 4/7/17 at 3:58 pm to SabiDojo
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The reasoning is that you are engaging in conduct which creates a risk of loss of life. When you are committing a violent felony, and such actions create a chain of events where loss of life occurs, why shouldn't you be responsible when that death occurs, regardless of whose life it is
Hold them responsible all you want, but it's not murder.
Y'all know it's not, you just don't think semantics are ever important, which is wrong.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 4:00 pm to uway
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Hold them responsible all you want, but it's not murder.
Had she not driven the car there these tPOS would still be alive right now to vandalize someone else so YES she had a direct hand in their deaths.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 4:01 pm to rowbear1922
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This case is simple. She should be charged with the deaths of the three dead tPOS because she had a direct hand in the attempted burglary. Do I think she saw/thought this outcome would happen? Absolutely not but ignorance of the law is no justifiable defense.
You can't use the existence of a law as it's own justification. I understand the law, it's just stupid and language-degrading to call anything other than intentional killing of another human being "murder".
Use your imagination as to why.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 4:03 pm to uway
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You can't use the existence of a law as it's own justification
Her case will test it, in court.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 4:04 pm to uway
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You can't use the existence of a law as it's own justification. I understand the law, it's just stupid and language-degrading to call anything other than intentional killing of another human being "murder".
Use your imagination as to why.
Honestly the murder charge I don't see sticking but an accomplice to murder might. Either way the Oklahoma tax dollars shouldn't be wasted on letting this POS live for the next 70 years in prison. Take a 50 cent bullet and move on.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 5:13 pm to rowbear1922
quote:who did she assist? and who did that person murder?
an accomplice to murder might
Posted on 4/7/17 at 5:13 pm to knowingabyss
He could have shot him with a 12 gauge to the stomach and made his death painful & slow
Posted on 4/7/17 at 5:17 pm to rowbear1922
quote:ok fair enough. if I get drunk and hit someone and kill them that's about as direct as it gets...I won't be charged with murder (and maybe I should)
she had a direct hand in their deaths
but first degree murder charge means it is premeditated
so beyond my issue that I don't think she "murdered" them, I absolutely know she didn't plan and execute their "murders"
uway is more articulate than I am. "language degrading" that's the line. that's what I think annoys me.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 5:17 pm to DelU249
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who did she assist? and who did that person murder?
I take it I'm not the one you meant to send this to BUT she absolutely needs to be held accountable in some fashion to the deaths of them (albeit I'm not the least bit sad they are dead)
Posted on 4/7/17 at 5:18 pm to DelU249
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if I get drunk and hit someone and kill them that's about as direct as it gets...I won't be charged with murder
In the case of Olivia Matte, yes you should be charged with murder for drunk driving.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 5:20 pm to uway
not only that, a first degree charge means you did so intentionally. 
I think a guy who gets loaded and hits someone and kills them is more of a murderer but even that guy wouldn't be charged with murder and certainly not first degree murder
I don't trust "discretion" and I hate the idea that I can shoplift a pack of gum impulsively and end up in the pokey awaiting trial for first degree murder.
I think a guy who gets loaded and hits someone and kills them is more of a murderer but even that guy wouldn't be charged with murder and certainly not first degree murder
I don't trust "discretion" and I hate the idea that I can shoplift a pack of gum impulsively and end up in the pokey awaiting trial for first degree murder.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 5:25 pm to rowbear1922
quote:she's being charged with vehicular homicide which implies negligence which means a lack of intent.
She was booked at the Jefferson Parish Correctional Center in Gretna with vehicular homicide, third-offense DWI, driving on a suspended license, failure to maintain control of a vehicle and vehicular negligent injuring.
that's not murder, they don't call it murder, and it's certainly not first degree murder.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 5:27 pm to DelU249
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she's being charged with vehicular homicide which implies negligence which means a lack of intent.
that's not murder, they don't call it murder, and it's certainly not first degree murder.
Again in the case of Olivia Matte, she should be charged with 1st degree murder for a 3rd DWI in less than a year. She premeditated the idea to drive over the limit.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 5:28 pm to rowbear1922
quote:they already have a means of doing that...and I agree btw
take it I'm not the one you meant to send this to BUT she absolutely needs to be held accountable in some fashion to the deaths of them
they charge her with the crimes she did commit and because she is partially responsible for the fact that they're dead, they give her the stiffest sentence.
but first degree murder means the rest of your fricking life in prison...i'm sure there's something in the law preventing a prosecutor from seeking the death penalty but first degree murder is a charge you can be sentenced to death for
Posted on 4/7/17 at 5:30 pm to DelU249
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but first degree murder means the rest of your fricking life in prison
I'd rather her in prison for the rest of her life than to breed and have more tPOS in the world
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