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re: Gentrification, good or bad... Thoughts?

Posted on 4/1/16 at 1:58 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 1:58 pm to
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Why has there not been much gentrification in Detroit?
Because nobody wants to gentrify it you moron
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
20686 posts
Posted on 4/1/16 at 1:59 pm to
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It is very racial. Most gentrified neighborhoods used to be African-American.


I don't think it's a racial issue big picture. Gentrification takes place in areas that have residents on the lower end of the socioeconomic scale.

Now does that end of the scale contain a higher % of African Americans? Yes, well at least in New Orleans where I'm assuming the OP was listening to the conversation.

But gentrification doesn't seek out people of a certain ethnicity, it seeks out areas of a certain socioeconomic status. To me it's not a racial issue, rather a socioeconomic one.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101927 posts
Posted on 4/1/16 at 1:59 pm to
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And before they were African American neighborhoods, they were predominately white. What's your point?



And before that they were native American hunting grounds. We should really raze all the development and start regulating spear-hunting permits.
Posted by MorgusTheMagnificent
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2014
1852 posts
Posted on 4/1/16 at 1:59 pm to
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Why has there not been much gentrification in Detroit


Isn't Detroit the posterchild of how NOT to manage an American city?
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:00 pm to
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But gentrification doesn't seek out people of a certain ethnicity, it seeks out areas of a certain socioeconomic status. To me it's not a racial issue, rather a socioeconomic one.


You're responding to someone that either can't, or refuses to, differentiate.
Posted by stonedbegonias
Member since Jan 2010
11585 posts
Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:00 pm to
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Gentrification was a big topic in one of my sociology classes. I'm well versed on the topic.


Tell us what else your professor thinks about it.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:00 pm to
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Why has there not been much gentrification in Detroit?


its coming

LINK
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:01 pm to
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But gentrification doesn't seek out people of a certain ethnicity, it seeks out areas of a certain socioeconomic status. To me it's not a racial issue, rather a socioeconomic one.


A good point, but I don't agree. It is a tradition of Anglo-America to obtain territory from racial minorities. Yes, economics are one motivation, but it seems that the economic motivation is always directed against minorities (tainting the process with racism). Native American displacement had a economic basis, but a much stronger racial basis.

ETA: When have you seen gentrification of a white neighborhood? Never.
This post was edited on 4/1/16 at 2:04 pm
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:02 pm to
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Gentrification was a big topic in one of my sociology classes. I'm well versed on the topic.



I like you, Heather, but you need to get your money back.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:02 pm to
I think you're a better troll than Ken M.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95817 posts
Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:02 pm to
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A good point, but I don't agree. It is a tradition of Anglo-America to obtain territory from racial minorities. Yes, economics are one motivation, but it seems that the economic motivation is always directed against minorities (tainting the process with racism). Native American displacement had a economic basis, but a much stronger racial basis.

You think the hipster shits who gentrified East Nashville and the Bywater did it to spread their anglo-saxon roots on the poor black man?
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
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83613 posts
Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:03 pm to
It's TulaneLSU. And yeah, he is a great troll.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:03 pm to
you don't know anything about Detroit. stop.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70395 posts
Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:03 pm to
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You think the hipster shits who gentrified East Nashville and the Bywater did it to spread their anglo-saxon roots on the poor black man?


Manifest Destiny, the original hipster ideal.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101927 posts
Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:04 pm to
It takes a metric frickton of dedication to stick to it as long as heather has.
Posted by Mootsman
Charlotte, NC
Member since Oct 2012
6025 posts
Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:04 pm to
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They are, or certainly have a greater right to be their than the white interlopers.


Shut the frick up you dumb bimbo.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:04 pm to
They complained about white flight. Now, they're complaining about gentrification. Solid logic.


The truth is that most of the people complaining don't even own their houses and they are Sec 8
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:05 pm to
What were the cons? Seriously. What are the cons?
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83613 posts
Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:05 pm to
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When have you seen gentrification of a white neighborhood? Never.


plenty of white neighborhoods get new things and then property values rise

its just not called gentrification

its just call progress

talk to all the people living in the suburbs of Houston and Dallas and whatnot and see how much property values have risen in the last 10 years
This post was edited on 4/1/16 at 2:06 pm
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
3673 posts
Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:05 pm to
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Manifest Destiny, the original hipster ideal.


Why is everyone talking about hipsters? Hipsters have nothing to do with this issue. "Hipsters" may move in, but it is wealthy white non-hipsters who do most of the gentrification.

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