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re: General Tornado Thread
Posted on 4/25/14 at 11:26 pm to GEAUXmedic
Posted on 4/25/14 at 11:26 pm to GEAUXmedic
00z GFS is depicting 3 hour precipitation maxs that would typically be associated with a broken line of supercells on late Sunday afternoon into evening. The environment certainly appears conducive to tornadic supercells. The GFS doesn't have the resolution to determine the actual locations of individual cells so that is an "approximation" at best but does give a pretty big tip of the hat that discrete supercells are possible.
This post was edited on 4/25/14 at 11:27 pm
Posted on 4/25/14 at 11:30 pm to rds dc
rds.. what are your thoughts on this event, as a whole. Particularly Monday-Wednesday.
, I try to expand my knowledge, and over the past year I have had more time to do so.
quote:
You've come a long way from last hurricane season (again not a complaint), and I'm glad someone else is posting these types of events. They can be exhausting.
, I try to expand my knowledge, and over the past year I have had more time to do so.
This post was edited on 4/26/14 at 12:20 am
Posted on 4/25/14 at 11:30 pm to rds dc
Thanks for the update. I'll keep my eye on this thread and the local weather.
My parents are driving from my house in the eastern Memphis suburbs to Baton Rouge on Sunday and I'm going to suggest to them that they get on the road early.
My parents are driving from my house in the eastern Memphis suburbs to Baton Rouge on Sunday and I'm going to suggest to them that they get on the road early.
Posted on 4/25/14 at 11:32 pm to dewster
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My parents are driving from my house in the eastern Memphis suburbs to Baton Rouge on Sunday and I'm going to suggest to them that they get on the road early.
FWIW it would be great if they could pass the Louisiana border by 7AM.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 12:11 am to GEAUXmedic
Just saw something about 50K something in north Alabama Monday and Tuesday. Geux you care to explain?
Posted on 4/26/14 at 12:17 am to HoLeInOnEr05
maybe 50 kts? where did you see it?
Posted on 4/26/14 at 12:31 am to GEAUXmedic
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rds.. what are your thoughts on this event, as a whole. Particularly Monday-Wednesday.
It is hard to say, esp. given that it looks like there will be ongoing convection pretty much every morning. Just based on pattern recognition there is obviously potential for each day but too many details need to be worked out. It will depend a lot on how the warm sector recovers from overnight convection, what the mesoscale features end up looking like on each day, and the timing of the pieces of energy that rotate around the base of the through each day.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 12:32 am to GEAUXmedic
Americanwx central forum
Posted on 4/26/14 at 12:37 am to HoLeInOnEr05
Ah, he's saying the one model shows the presence of a 50 kt lower level jet. The presence of a LLJ causes shear, which is one ingredient in tornadic supercells.
This post was edited on 4/26/14 at 12:38 am
Posted on 4/26/14 at 1:07 am to GEAUXmedic
Sunday:
Basically all types of severe weather possible, including large hail and strong tornadoes.
Basically all types of severe weather possible, including large hail and strong tornadoes.
quote:
...SUMMARY...
AN OUTBREAK OF SEVERE STORMS IS POSSIBLE ON SUNDAY ACROSS PARTS OF
THE CENTRAL STATES WITH LARGE HAIL...DAMAGING WINDS...AND TORNADOES.
THE GREATEST RISK FOR STRONG TORNADOES APPEARS CENTERED FROM THE
ARK-LA-TEX TO THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY.
...SYNOPSIS...
A VIGOROUS SHORTWAVE TROUGH CENTERED IN THE LEE OF THE SRN ROCKIES
AT 12Z/SUN WILL SUBSTANTIALLY SLOW AS IT PROGRESSES TOWARDS NEB. AN
ATTENDANT MID-LEVEL JET /AOA 50 KT AT 500 MB/ WILL
PERSIST FROM THE DESERT SW...CURLING NWD FROM THE RED RIVER TO THE
MO VALLEY. AT THE SURFACE...A CYCLONE SHOULD DRIFT EWD OVER THE
CNTRL PLAINS WITH A WARM FRONT ARCING EWD ACROSS THE CORN BELT TO
THE LOWER OH VALLEY. A DRYLINE/WEAKENING PACIFIC COLD FRONT SHOULD
REACH ERN KS/OK INTO DEEP S TX IN THE LATE AFTERNOON.
...MO VALLEY TO THE WRN GULF COAST...
OVERALL SCENARIO HAS NOT CHANGED MUCH FROM PREVIOUS OUTLOOK WITH
GRADUALLY INCREASING CONFIDENCE IN A POSSIBLE OUTBREAK AMIDST
CONTINUED LIMITING FACTORS.
THE WARM SECTOR WILL BE INCREASINGLY BROAD/MOIST BENEATH AN EML WITH
LOWER 60S SURFACE DEW POINTS BECOMING ESTABLISHED NEAR THE WARM
FRONT AND MIDDLE TO UPPER 60S INTO THE LOWER/MID-MS VALLEYS AND
ARKLATEX BY EARLY EVENING SUN. THIS COMBINED WITH INITIALLY STEEP
MID-LEVEL LAPSE RATES AND MODERATE TO STRONG DEEP-LAYER SHEAR WILL
SUPPORT AN EXPANSIVE AREA OF ORGANIZED SEVERE STORMS.
AREAS OF CONVECTION SHOULD BE ONGOING AT 12Z/SUN FROM PARTS OF IA TO
OK. ALTHOUGH THE BULK THIS ACTIVITY SHOULD BE ELEVATED...IT SHOULD
TRANSITION TO BECOMING SURFACE-BASED AS DOWNSTREAM DIURNAL HEATING
ENSUES. CLUSTERS OF ISOLATED TO SCATTERED SEVERE STORMS WILL BE
POSSIBLE AS THIS LEAD CONVECTION LIKELY DEVELOPS EWD.
THE MOST INTENSE SEVERE STORMS SHOULD DEVELOP ALONG THE DRYLINE AND
REMNANT CONVECTIVE OUTFLOWS IN THE WARM SECTOR DURING THE AFTERNOON.
IN THE WAKE OF EARLY DAY CONVECTION...THERE REMAINS SUBSTANTIAL
UNCERTAINTY IN THE DEGREE OF DESTABILIZATION /ESPECIALLY WITH NRN
EXTENT/. NAM/GFS GUIDANCE IS INSISTENT ON DEVELOPING AT LEAST
MODERATE BUOYANCY WITH MLCAPE AOA 1000 J/KG INTO NERN KS AS
INSOLATION OCCURS ALONG THE DRYLINE AMIDST STEEP MID-LEVEL LAPSE
RATES. IF THIS WERE TO OCCUR...ROBUST MID-LEVEL DCVA WOULD FOSTER
SCATTERED STORMS FORMING BY MID-AFTERNOON INVOF KS/MO BORDER.
ALTHOUGH DEEP-LAYER WIND PROFILES SHOULD BE LARGELY MERIDIONAL
HERE...BACKED LOW-LEVEL WINDS WOULD AID IN SUFFICIENT CURVATURE TO
THE LOW-LEVEL HODOGRAPH FOR SUPERCELLS. LARGE HAIL /SOME
SIGNIFICANT/ AND AT LEAST A FEW TORNADOES APPEAR POSSIBLE. PARTS OF
THIS REGION MAY BE UPGRADED TO MODERATE RISK IN LATER OUTLOOKS IF IT
APPEARS STABILIZING EFFECTS OF EARLY DAY CONVECTION WILL NOT BE TOO
DETRIMENTAL TO THE AFTERNOON THREAT.
FARTHER S...A MORE VOLATILE THERMODYNAMIC ENVIRONMENT SHOULD EXIST S
OF ANY EARLY DAY CONVECTION /INVOF THE ARKLATEX/. WITH SURFACE
TEMPERATURES HEATING INTO THE 80S/90S ALONG/W OF THE DRYLINE IN
TX...MLCAPE SHOULD REACH 2500 J/KG JUST AHEAD OF IT. HODOGRAPHS
APPEAR QUITE CONDUCIVE TO SUPERCELLS...CAPABLE OF PRODUCING VERY
LARGE HAIL AND STRONG TORNADOES. NAM FORECAST SOUNDINGS REMAIN THE
MOST ROBUST WITH THE CO-LOCATION OF STRONG BUOYANCY AND LARGE
CURVING HODOGRAPHS. OTHER GUIDANCE SUGGESTS STRONGER KINEMATIC
FIELDS WILL BE DISPLACED FARTHER EAST /CENTERED OVER THE LOWER MS
VALLEY/. BUT WITH THE DRYLINE STALLING OR SLOWLY MOVING ACROSS NERN
TX SUN NIGHT...TRAINING CONVECTIVE CLUSTERS WITH EMBEDDED SUPERCELLS
MAY CONTINUE WELL INTO THE NIGHT. PARTS OF THIS REGION MAY WARRANT
AN UPGRADE TO HIGH RISK IN LATER OUTLOOKS.
This post was edited on 4/26/14 at 1:36 am
Posted on 4/26/14 at 8:08 am to GEAUXmedic
I have to drive to Shreveport this morning, I just want to know what I am heading into. All of those maps are too much for me. Is it going to be clear for the trip?
Posted on 4/26/14 at 8:31 am to Mr. Tom Morrow
quote:
I'm glad someone else is posting these types of events. They can be exhausting.
Tell me about it...
You should've been here for the 2005 season. Talk about coming a long way.
I'm glad we have y'all here now.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 8:33 am to RummelTiger
You're the only weatherman here I pay attention to
Posted on 4/26/14 at 8:36 am to yellowfin
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yellowfin
You complete me.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 8:45 am to RummelTiger
quote:
Tell me about it...
You should've been here for the 2005 season. Talk about coming a long way.
I'm glad we have y'all here now.
This really is my off season since I don't do much work for spring severe weather events unless it's going to be epic. I'm glad others are interested in it and posting (like Geauxmedic). Looking forward to an uneventful hurricane season, but if we're threatened, I'll definitely be here helping TD members. I'm sure Geauxmedic will have a thread ready to go in the event of a gulf coast threat.
Edit: You have 66666 posts!
This post was edited on 4/26/14 at 8:46 am
Posted on 4/26/14 at 9:25 am to East Coast Band
Looks like the ArkLaTex is going to be ground zero for this outbreak, which is unusual.
Out TorCon has moved from a 4 to a 7. Predictions of the strongest long tracks being centered around the ArkLaTex.
It's been at least 10 years, probably more, since the ArkLaTex has been under the gun like this.
Out TorCon has moved from a 4 to a 7. Predictions of the strongest long tracks being centered around the ArkLaTex.
It's been at least 10 years, probably more, since the ArkLaTex has been under the gun like this.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 10:16 am to au21tigers
This is only the second time ever that two day 3 moderate risks have been released in a row.
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