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re: Gay designers Dolce & Gabbana make statement : gay families unnatural
Posted on 3/16/15 at 8:08 am to BayouBlue386
Posted on 3/16/15 at 8:08 am to BayouBlue386
They'll get a pass. Hell, they're gay.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 8:10 am to Chef Leppard
These homosexuals get it!
This is a great Monday!
This is a great Monday!
Posted on 3/16/15 at 8:11 am to tiggerthetooth
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What? So your selfish desire for a child regardless of how your life choices might affect the childs life are whats most important? Yes, there are also drug abusers who want children, are they justified in being angry if we say they shouldnt have children? Im not saying gays = drug abusers, but just because you WANT a child, doesnt mean you should have one, and its very selfish to have a narrow minded view of being able to raise a child successfully as a result of only one condition.
Yeah, because kids who are tossed from foster home to foster home or grow up in Chinese orphanages are so much better off. How selfish of these gays to want to get those kids out of that situation!
Posted on 3/16/15 at 8:11 am to BayouBlue386
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All I want are gay married couples to protect themselves from violence with a firearm while enjoying free speech rights. That's my definition of freedom.
and what if the statement of these 2 gays are correct, is it still freedom?
Posted on 3/16/15 at 8:18 am to BestBanker
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These homosexuals get it!
This is a great Monday!
I know quite a few couples with kids. Their homes are considerably more stable than many of the married hetero couples sadly.
The kids, with the exception of one teen girl with two dads, are all straight.
Not saying it's a better format, just that it's exactly the same.
Good people raise good kids.
What someone does in their bedroom between consenting adults doesn't affect their parenting skills.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 8:19 am to Pepe Lepew
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and what if the statement of these 2 gays are correct, is it still freedom?
Free speech doesn't mean accurate.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 8:21 am to BayouBlue386
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Good people raise good kids.
yep
being raised in a stable, healthy environment with loving parents is the most important thing
Posted on 3/16/15 at 8:24 am to BayouBlue386
quote:This is the most important part of the issue. As long children are in a positive, caring, and nurturing environment, they are going to better off, regardless of the parental dynamic.
Good people raise good kids
Edit: Salmon beat me to it
This post was edited on 3/16/15 at 8:26 am
Posted on 3/16/15 at 8:45 am to tiggerthetooth
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There may be many more unforeseen issues come about from children growing up in a same-sex marriage couple as guardians situation. Especially if they were test-tube conceived. Just a crazy way about it.
how do we know the gay mafia isn't turning their GMO babies into supersoldiers bent on world domination?
Posted on 3/16/15 at 8:47 am to el Gaucho
Will they be gay super soldiers though?
Posted on 3/16/15 at 8:48 am to Chef Leppard
Just wait until the media gets a hold of this.
RIP D&G
RIP D&G
Posted on 3/16/15 at 8:49 am to JimMorrison
Yes but the tough truck driver kind not the wimpy gelled hair kind
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:01 am to Chef Leppard
They state the obvious but considering their circumstances it took guts to do so. I would guess that the gay community will be no more tolerate of the views of Dolce & Gabbana than the black community and liberal progressives are of Uncle Toms'.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:04 am to Chef Leppard
Meh, they're entitled to their opinion.
Personally, I don't believe taking kids away from homes/parents who want them will do anyone any good. It is a shame how difficult and expensive it is for a suitable family to adopt.
Personally, I don't believe taking kids away from homes/parents who want them will do anyone any good. It is a shame how difficult and expensive it is for a suitable family to adopt.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 10:03 am to Chef Leppard
I like that their statement refers "all" families. Not that kids don't need two dads, or two moms, but that kids need an mom and a dad. That applies to the promiscuous heterosexuals that don't raise their children as well.
Of course, I loathe this line of thinking form Sir Elton
How dare anyone ever have an opinion on right and wrong!
Doesn't make it wrong.
Of course, I loathe this line of thinking form Sir Elton
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And shame on you for wagging your judgemental little fingers at
How dare anyone ever have an opinion on right and wrong!
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Your archaic thinking is out of step with the times,
Doesn't make it wrong.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 10:28 am to davesdawgs
First, I love any person, anywhere that has the courage to support their convictions. Especially these guys, being leaders of their industry with so much to lose
I dont understand the thinking of a few in here that this will blow over for them. This isnt just about parenting, this strikes at the heart of gay marriage, which you may not know is a prominent civil rights issue these days. And this is possibly the gayest couple in human history speaking against it. Gay people make up less than 5% of the population in this country, yet if you own a TV youd be forgiven for thinking its around 40%
I have no problem with same sex parents personally. I do have a problem with more study not being done before the issue was was pounded down everyones throats as a human rights cause. How many times has it even entered the discussion as to whether its detrimental to the development of the children. It seems the dysfunctional, often broken state of the modern "traditional" family leads most people to have a "well, whats worse" attitude instead of "whats best", which seems like a slippery slope
Though I do see infinite problems in doing this type of study. What are you comparing? Half the modern households are single parent. Whats considered an exemplary gay family? That a child could end up with real identity issues and or feel socially estranged in many situations seems likely. But people smarter than me can decide whether that detriment warrants any type of consideration or action. If theyre bold enough to even try, and risk being labeled hate mongers or backward thinkers with an agenda
Regardless ,it doesn't seem much thought has been given to the long term effects of child development along the way, considering how huge of an issue this has been over the last 10 yrs. Its like the issue of civil rights was just a blanket causr that covered everything
I dont understand the thinking of a few in here that this will blow over for them. This isnt just about parenting, this strikes at the heart of gay marriage, which you may not know is a prominent civil rights issue these days. And this is possibly the gayest couple in human history speaking against it. Gay people make up less than 5% of the population in this country, yet if you own a TV youd be forgiven for thinking its around 40%
I have no problem with same sex parents personally. I do have a problem with more study not being done before the issue was was pounded down everyones throats as a human rights cause. How many times has it even entered the discussion as to whether its detrimental to the development of the children. It seems the dysfunctional, often broken state of the modern "traditional" family leads most people to have a "well, whats worse" attitude instead of "whats best", which seems like a slippery slope
Though I do see infinite problems in doing this type of study. What are you comparing? Half the modern households are single parent. Whats considered an exemplary gay family? That a child could end up with real identity issues and or feel socially estranged in many situations seems likely. But people smarter than me can decide whether that detriment warrants any type of consideration or action. If theyre bold enough to even try, and risk being labeled hate mongers or backward thinkers with an agenda
Regardless ,it doesn't seem much thought has been given to the long term effects of child development along the way, considering how huge of an issue this has been over the last 10 yrs. Its like the issue of civil rights was just a blanket causr that covered everything
This post was edited on 3/16/15 at 10:33 am
Posted on 3/16/15 at 10:50 am to Chef Leppard
Chef, a study should be done. However, it would be nearly impossible to design in an unbiased manner, it would also be EXTREMELY unethical right from the start given you would appear to be essentially expirementing on kids...even though you wouldn't be.
Any couples selected would automatically bias the sample because the majority of stable gay couples are wealthier than average.
The randomization would be impossible, and even if you were able to succeed, finding enough unviased researchers to go through with the experiment is equally as unlikely.
As a result, we can only go by the ones we see; from what I have seen, all end up with well adjusted above average kids.
If it you find it to be morally wrong, that's perfectly fine. Just avoid getting into a same sex relationship and having a kid.
Any couples selected would automatically bias the sample because the majority of stable gay couples are wealthier than average.
The randomization would be impossible, and even if you were able to succeed, finding enough unviased researchers to go through with the experiment is equally as unlikely.
As a result, we can only go by the ones we see; from what I have seen, all end up with well adjusted above average kids.
If it you find it to be morally wrong, that's perfectly fine. Just avoid getting into a same sex relationship and having a kid.
This post was edited on 3/16/15 at 10:52 am
Posted on 3/16/15 at 10:55 am to olemiss5931
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won't see me graduate from med school
Subtle.
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