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re: Friend had a heart attack - doctor says its from testosterone shots

Posted on 6/27/16 at 7:22 am to
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14045 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 7:22 am to
No sweat Ben. Head over to T nation forums

Start reading. Have some good info on people new to the process.

Step one is finding out why your production is gone. I'm 34 and have primary failure. Basically after all the meds from being sick for so long cooked my balls. Some people it's a pituitary or thyroid issue. Not even a testicle issue. Doctors treat symptoms not always problems. Find out why then go from there. Good luck sir
Posted by Flamefighter
Center Field
Member since Dec 2007
7629 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 8:19 am to
I've been on the T pellets for around 4 years (38yrsold). I go every 3 months to my urologist. They take blood work and alter my dose accordingly.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11089 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 8:20 am to
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bencoleman


The DIY approach....

Eight Highly Effective Testosterone Boosting Tips

LINK

The Testosterone/Estrogen Balance in Men

LINK

I may "know" a professional in the BR area who could help you with what you are describing....
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167169 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 8:26 am to
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But, what is a balless man supposed to do?




LINK
This post was edited on 6/27/16 at 8:27 am
Posted by Konkey Dong
Member since Aug 2013
2164 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 8:39 am to
I'm 35 and I take it. My years of steroid use when i was younger destroyed my natural production. I get blood work every 6 months, and take a statin to help manage cholesterol.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 8:46 am to
Damn, 33 and low testosterone? That must suck. Was he crying all of the time and growing boobs?
Posted by bencoleman
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Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:18 am to
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I may "know" a professional in the BR area who could help you with what you are describing



This would be most appreciated. Does anyone know what a PSA number of 5.1 means?
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Member since Jun 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:33 am to
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This would be most appreciated. Does anyone know what a PSA number of 5.1 means?
Depends partly on your age, but a PSA of 5.1 is generally considered elevated. It could be from some kind of irritation to your prostate (like prostatitis or urinary tract infection), benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH), or from prostate cancer. But just getting a single measurement of 5.1 doesn't mean that much by itself. You should make sure you see your urologist regularly and get your PSA checked as often as he recommends. Usually, PSA is monitored over time and if it continues to rise, they'll do a prostate biopsy to check for cancer. The good news is that most prostate cancers are caught early if you get your PSA checked frequently, so make sure you do that! Catching prostate cancer early means you have a veeerry good chance of being cured.

Testosterone fuels prostate cancer growth, so if you have an elevated PSA, that may be why your doctor doesn't want you taking it. That doesn't mean you have cancer, just means your doctor is being very careful just in case.

Disclaimer: I'm not a doctor
This post was edited on 6/27/16 at 9:38 am
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61145 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:52 am to
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. Do doctors even have a clue anymore?


How DARE you question the all-knowing doctor who is ALWAYS right!


Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11089 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:57 am to
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Testosterone fuels prostate cancer growth




The historical associations are mainly correlations not causation

The relationship is complex. The most current model is linked below.

quote:

Prostate growth is exquisitely sensitive to variations in androgen concentrations at very low concentrations, but becomes insensitive to changes in androgen concentrations at higher levels.


LINK

There are few bold people (the author of the paper I linked being one of them) treating hypogonad men with active prostate cancer (on surveillance regimens) with TRT (with no progression of cancer)

The best analogy is using a wilted plant. Water (testosterone) may stimulate the plant (prostate) to grow. At some point further watering the plant will not cause it to grow into the size of a Sequoa (cancer)
Posted by El Magnifico
La casa de tu mamá
Member since Jan 2014
7017 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:58 am to
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WTF is a 33 year old doing on T?
Probably a steroid user in the past, thereby wrecking his natural production
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11089 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:59 am to
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Does anyone know what a PSA number of 5.1 means?


Go see this guy
This post was edited on 8/18/16 at 11:55 am
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
16994 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:02 am to
This is scary. I have a friend at the gym that is offering to get some test for me. I lost nearly 30 lbs. last year, and I've been trying to put the weight back on. I put 15 lbs. back, but I'm stuck. I have seriously been thinking about taking it. I don't want to screw up my body though. I'm 35 years old. I think my lack of energy is from stress. But my doctor has been wanting me to get my blood checked for low T.
Posted by BeachDude022
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Member since Dec 2006
34803 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:05 am to
Wrecked mine about 4 years ago bc of roids. Done with that shite now. I only take 75 mg a week though and I'm normal. But once I stop, after about 3 weeks I am tired all the time, no motivation to do anything like work or the gym, and my interest in sex is way low. I think I'll just stay on my low dosage and monitor myself. I get it checked every year for my yearly physical.
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
4892 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:07 am to
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I have a friend at the gym that is offering to get some test for me.


If your going to do it, do it under the watch of a Dr. Not some guy at the gym.

There may/may not be side effects. That's why its important to have a Dr. looking at your blood test on a regular basis.
This post was edited on 6/27/16 at 10:11 am
Posted by Pepe Lepew
Looney tuned .....
Member since Oct 2008
36112 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:21 pm to
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stout




Posted by TexasTiger90
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Jul 2014
3576 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:24 pm to
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I've had a suspicion for a while that low T meds are mostly a moneymaking scheme.

Posted by tigerstripedjacket
This side of the wall
Member since Sep 2011
2999 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:25 pm to
I'm just going to go ahead and say it, your friend went to the doctor to get testosterone shots so he can get beefed up in the weight room and impress your wife.
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