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For younger workers, job hopping has lost its stigma. Should it?
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:14 pm
Dawn Fay, operational president for talent solutions and business consulting at Robert Half, said in an email that the survey also asked hiring managers their top concerns when evaluating a candidate’s resume: 77% named job hopping.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:18 pm to CaddoTiger64
I feel like if you don't change jobs at least every 5 years, you are leaving a lot of money on the table. Your biggest bump in pay will most likely come from changing jobs.
Most employers don't reward "loyalty".
Most employers don't reward "loyalty".
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:19 pm to CaddoTiger64
For the most part. With traditional pensions being rare now, mobile 401ks, layoff culture, and workers having to change jobs to receive pay raises, employers would have to be dumb and foolish to not understand the job hopping mindset.
On the pro side, workers are exposed to more ideas and build a larger network when job hopping.
On the pro side, workers are exposed to more ideas and build a larger network when job hopping.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:22 pm to CoolHand
I agree that you can make more money hopping. However, a lot of times people don’t want to hire someone they’ll train to leave in a year or two. So I get both sides of it.
I do prefer loyalty. But I also agree that for the most part employers don’t value their employees enough, so if you can jump somewhere else for more money then I say you do you and I hope it works out. I stayed loyal to my previous office and all it got me was shite on. Wish I would’ve made the jump to my current place a decade earlier.
I do prefer loyalty. But I also agree that for the most part employers don’t value their employees enough, so if you can jump somewhere else for more money then I say you do you and I hope it works out. I stayed loyal to my previous office and all it got me was shite on. Wish I would’ve made the jump to my current place a decade earlier.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:22 pm to CaddoTiger64
The only job hopping I worry about is when it’s lateral moves.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:23 pm to CaddoTiger64
Employers have no issue cutting employees when it helps their bottom line, why shouldn't an employee hop around for the highest salary possible?
I think, in general, most people should be at a job for a year and, if you just left your old job after a year, you should probably wait a bit longer to leave your next job.
However, it's entirely circumstantial. Toxic work environment? Low pay? Horrendous work/life balance? Dead-end job? And you're supposed to suck it up not be a "job hopper?" Interesting...
I think, in general, most people should be at a job for a year and, if you just left your old job after a year, you should probably wait a bit longer to leave your next job.
However, it's entirely circumstantial. Toxic work environment? Low pay? Horrendous work/life balance? Dead-end job? And you're supposed to suck it up not be a "job hopper?" Interesting...
This post was edited on 12/23/23 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:23 pm to CaddoTiger64
No
Leaving money on the table and ability to get into bigger or better opportunities
Leaving money on the table and ability to get into bigger or better opportunities
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:24 pm to CaddoTiger64
One of the first things I look at on a resume.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:24 pm to CaddoTiger64
Ive traditionally moved from job to job abt 2.5 to 3 years. The last two jobs I was hired at the first job I sent a resume for and while they asked about the moves, I explained. I was hired. Have to do what is best for you. Has not hurt me. Leaving on good terms and dealing with professionals, people understand.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:26 pm to CoolHand
I don’t think 5 years is job hopping.
3 jobs in 5 years is job hopping, unless it was for promotions.
3 jobs in 5 years is job hopping, unless it was for promotions.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:27 pm to pelicansfan123
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And you're supposed to suck it up not be a "job hopper?" Interesting...
You’re free to job hop. Potential employers are free to hold it against you.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:29 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Same with prior employers
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:30 pm to CaddoTiger64
The stigma behind “job hopping” AKA looking out for your own interests because you know nobody else will is nothing more than another manifestation of the codependent relationship Boomers had with their insanely overrated GI Generation parents and bosses back in the 70s and 80s
Click the red arrow if it makes you feel better but you know in your heart that it’s true
Click the red arrow if it makes you feel better but you know in your heart that it’s true
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:35 pm to CaddoTiger64
I was going to criticize Dawn Fay for hypocrisy, but after looking at her LinkedIn page, she’s been with Robert Half for 27 years.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:39 pm to CoolHand
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Most employers don't reward "loyalty".
They do if you are a promotable future leader of the company. And, if you are willing to stand up for yourself when you see a pay discrepancy emerge.
If you are a “non regrettable” loss then you have no leverage and leaving is the pathway to increased earnings.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:40 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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You’re free to job hop. Potential employers are free to hold it against you.
Employers desperately looking to hire away top talent don’t care about length of prior jobs. It’s difficult to find workers in many industries right now.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:41 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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3 jobs in 5 years is job hopping, unless it was for promotions.
Even if promotions at different companies, that’s a red flag. I want to see promotions at the same company ideally.
Job hopping is absolutely something I will press a candidate for candor on “why” …they are done at initial screen without a good answer.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:42 pm to Riverside
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Employers desperately looking to hire away top talent don’t care about length of prior jobs.
Top talent is rarely who is job hopping. Employers do everything they can to keep “top talent”.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:43 pm to lynxcat
Lots of industries have tiers. Making “partner” at a small firm and being rewarded for loyalty is a lot less lucrative than being associate or counsel at another firm that can pay 75% more with more interesting work.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:43 pm to CaddoTiger64
They can red flag these nuts
Anyone is gonna take a job for better pay so i would say if they paid people better, workers would stay
Anyone is gonna take a job for better pay so i would say if they paid people better, workers would stay
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