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re: Florida's new Brightline high-speed rail b/w Miami & Orlando is popular among riders
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:18 pm to Street Hawk
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:18 pm to Street Hawk
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- First 9 days: 17,578 riders. - Following 16 days: 40,219 riders. Average fare: $91
So that's 1953 riders per day for the first nine days, and 2514 riders per day for the next sixteen days. That's a 29% increase.
And at an average of $91 per fare, that's $177,733 per day for the first nine days and $228,746 per day for the next sixteen days. Or if the 2514 riders per day extends for a year, that's revenue of approaching $84 million per year. Is that enough to cover the operating expenses and service the debt?
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:20 pm to TigerGM
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It’s 36 minutes by car. What am I missing?!
Miami traffic. You ain’t making it from Fort Lauderdale to downtown Miami where the train station is in 36 minutes during rush hour or if it rained. When I lived in Miami I lived 2 blocks away from Miami Central Station and I used to commute to Jackson North hospital which is only 1/3rd of the way to Fort Lauderdale and I would have to allow hour for traffic or I would be late.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:24 pm to Alpha Dawg
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frick taxpayer funded transportation. Defund all that shite and only do it if private companies
Brightline is owned by Florida East Coast rail and is a private company.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:24 pm to Permit
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The Brightline screams thru our town (Stuart, FL) and I usually catch it. Three minutes later it's gone. Stuart, Ft Pierce, and Port St Lucie are vying for a station.
Once you start adding stops, your high speed train is no more than faster subway line.
Too many stops make the train much less efficient for having to slow down and stop and speed back up again.
Take the Sunset Limited for example, luckily some stops are only done if there is a passenger to pick up or drop off. The train station in Schriever is used like this.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:28 pm to Tarps99
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:34 pm to Pilot Tiger
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really hope more states and regions build high speed rail links between major cities and hubs
People will refuse to ride it on the simple principle they will not want to sit next to a stranger when they can drive instead.
This post was edited on 12/12/23 at 9:17 am
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:43 pm to Street Hawk
Average fair $91. What’s the Ft Lauderdale to Miami fare vs the Orlando to Miami Fare? If average fare is that high, I’m assuming most people are going to Orlando and back and not using it to get from FLL to Miami.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:41 pm to diat150
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I guess it depends on your luggage demands but you can fly miami to orlando for 79 and the flight is an hour so you probably save 1.5-2 hours of time.
Does the 1.5 to 2 hours you save over the train account for the time you need to get to the airport early before boarding your flight?
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:49 pm to NYNolaguy1
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People will refuse to ride it on the simple principle they will don't want to sit next to a stranger when they can drive instead.
People will refuse to ride it if it is slower and/or more expensive than driving or flying.
I like rail travel, it just doesn’t seem to make sense financially here outside of a few areas. I mean shite the feds just denied Nola to BR. If that route can’t get built, there are onjj kk y a few that ever will.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 11:14 pm to mudshuvl05
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driving from the extreme southern tip of Greece to the extreme northern border of Lithuania = driving from Grand Chenier, LA to Angle Inlet, MN.
Nobody said anything about coast to coast routes. We should absolutely have regional networks that connect major cities.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 11:31 pm to Pilot Tiger
Why have high speed rail if we have high speed air?
Posted on 12/11/23 at 11:33 pm to Pepperoni
Yes.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 2:03 am to bbeck
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The fact the US doesn’t have high speed rail available nationwide is a disgrace.
Connecting the Florida cities makes sense. Could probably do the same in Texas and California and maybe DC-Boston. Otherwise most places are too far apart and planes would be far better.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 2:31 am to mudshuvl05
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mudshuvl05
The only thing your idiotic arse proved with that map is a high speed rail network going from big city to big city would work. No one is talking about a non-stop east coast to west coast train route.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 2:36 am to mudshuvl05
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no. you can't move the fricking goalposts. you need to try and keep up: the person i replied to said it's a travesty this country doesn't have high speed rail; as if we are the size of France.
Oh you poor idiot….
Posted on 12/12/23 at 2:39 am to Alpha Dawg
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frick taxpayer funded transportation. Defund all that shite and only do it if private companies want to do it with zero tax dollars. That includes buses and subways.
Oh boy do I have news for you about the airline industry
Posted on 12/12/23 at 3:33 am to fightin tigers
Private bus companies use the interstate. I would be against an government intercity bus service operating at a loss.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 3:47 am to Street Hawk
I'm taking the grandkids and riding it in February.
Been watching them build the run for thr past couple of years from our place in Jupiter.
Been watching them build the run for thr past couple of years from our place in Jupiter.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 3:57 am to Street Hawk
The trip from West Palm to Miami is awesome. You get to drink and chill in first class accommodations. Way easier than driving.
I can’t wait to take it to Orlando. We have a voucher from when they canceled in early September for the FSU/LSU game. The drive to Orlando sucks.
I can’t wait to take it to Orlando. We have a voucher from when they canceled in early September for the FSU/LSU game. The drive to Orlando sucks.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 4:13 am to Nelson Biederman IV
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We should absolutely have regional networks that connect major cities.
If they were profitable, there would be.
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