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Florida HS principal ousted for McKinney comments
Posted on 6/12/15 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 6/12/15 at 3:51 pm
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The school at which he was principal is primarily black. Ol' free speech.
SIAP: I google searched
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Alberto Iber's comment had defended the officer seen in a video pushing a 15-year-old girl to the ground and drawing his gun on other black teens following a pool party in McKinney, a Dallas suburb.
VIDEOHialeah School Gets Makeover from Miami Dolphins
"He did nothing wrong. He was afraid for his life," Iber posted on a Miami Herald story. "I commend him for his actions."
"That's a bad thing for being a principal at North Miami Senior High School," said a student. "How can you defend a man who pulled a gun on teenagers?"
The school at which he was principal is primarily black. Ol' free speech.
SIAP: I google searched
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 3:52 pm to High C
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Ol' free speech.
He wasn't arrested
Posted on 6/12/15 at 3:52 pm to High C
Add this one to.
She gon!
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[quote]"I'm just going to just go ahead and say it...the blacks are the ones causing the problems and this 'racial tension,'" Fitzgibbons wrote in the Facebook post. "I guess that's what happens when you flunk out of school and have no education. I'm sure their parents are just as guilty for not knowing what their kids were doing; or knew and didn't care."
The elementary school teacher continued, "I'm almost to the point of wanting them all segregated on one side of town so they can hurt each other and leave the innocent people alone. Maybe the 50s and 60s were really on to [sic] something. Now, let the bashing of my true and honest opinion begin...GO! #imnotracist #imsickofthemcausingtrouble #itwasagatedcommunity"
She gon!
This post was edited on 6/12/15 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 6/12/15 at 3:52 pm to High C
Is he labeled a "White-Hispanic" in the story? That'll make it even better...
Posted on 6/12/15 at 3:56 pm to High C
Social media: if you don't take advantage of internet anonymity, you deserve what you get.
Posted on 6/12/15 at 3:57 pm to MSMHater
So he basically outted himself as a racist. Figures.
Posted on 6/12/15 at 3:59 pm to PrivatePublic
Doesn't change the fact that he lost his job over basically nothing.
Posted on 6/12/15 at 4:03 pm to c on z
Probably not racist, but you can't make an overtly racial statement like that and expect not to hear about it in this environment.
Posted on 6/12/15 at 4:05 pm to High C
Why are liberals not up in arms over this? They cite the constitution and separation of church and state to keep religion out of schools. Well if those schools are subject to that constitutional limitation, how can that same school punish someone for exercising their right to free speech which is protected by the constitution? We are a nation of laws and can't pick and choose what portions of the constitution to enforce based on what we like.
This post was edited on 6/12/15 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 6/12/15 at 4:06 pm to High C
There was a black guy on Hannity last night who was at the pool party who said the kids were the ones causing the problems. He has received like 20 death threats.
Posted on 6/12/15 at 4:10 pm to Salmon
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Ol' free speech.
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He wasn't arrested
I know people like to throw out the "he wasn't arrested" response when they feel like people don't understand the limits of the free speech protection and that usually is the right response.
However, in this case (if it is a public school teacher terminated by a government entity) then I don't think "he wasn't arrested" is necessarily the end of the inquiry. A public school teacher's or employee's free speech right can conceivably be violated by the government terminating them. Did the public employee speak as a private citizen or as a representative of the school? If the former, free speech protection may apply. Was the speech about a matter of public concern? How does the balance between freedom of expression about a matter of public concern of a private citizen on the one hand weigh against potential harm to the operation of the school?
Although I highly doubt this principal would win a free speech challenge to his termination, it is not just a question of whether he was arrested in this case.
This post was edited on 6/12/15 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 6/12/15 at 4:10 pm to Darth_Vader
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We are a nation of laws and can't pick and choose what portions of the constitution to enforce
No one is saying he can't say those things, he just lost his job as a result. He still has the freedom to say those things going forward.
Posted on 6/12/15 at 4:12 pm to Clyde Tipton
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Iber is still employed and was assigned to administrative duties until he is reassigned, officials said.
Posted on 6/12/15 at 4:14 pm to Clyde Tipton
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No one is saying he can't say those things, he just lost his job as a result. He still has the freedom to say those things going forward.
No, it can't be both ways. If a school is prevented from allowing any religion based on limitations of the Constitution then that same school cannot punish someone for exercising the right to free speech which is in the same constitution.
Posted on 6/12/15 at 4:19 pm to c on z
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So he basically outted himself as a racist
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"I guess that's what happens when you flunk out of school and have no education. I'm sure their parents are just as guilty for not knowing what their kids were doing; or knew and didn't care."
The elementary school teacher continued, "I'm almost to the point of wanting them all segregated on one side of town so they can hurt each other and leave the innocent people alone.
what is racist about this? it might be painfully true, but its not racist.
Posted on 6/12/15 at 4:23 pm to Darth_Vader
Why is this such an outrage when it's said?
All white folks I know don't go to primarily black establishments and just like black folks I work with or know they don't go to primarily white establishments.
The same applies to where each of them live.
The same applies to other races as well.
Black and white folks are different. Each likes and prefers different things in life. Why is this so hard to understand.
It's not racist, it's just called life
All white folks I know don't go to primarily black establishments and just like black folks I work with or know they don't go to primarily white establishments.
The same applies to where each of them live.
The same applies to other races as well.
Black and white folks are different. Each likes and prefers different things in life. Why is this so hard to understand.
It's not racist, it's just called life
Posted on 6/12/15 at 4:24 pm to Salmon
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He wasn't arrested
When the witty response backfires.
It doesn't matter that he wasn't arrested. It's government action (assuming this was a public school) supressing speech. That doesn't mean that his first amendment right was violated, but the first amendment is very much in play here.
Posted on 6/12/15 at 4:26 pm to elposter
If this portion of the Constitution prevents schools from having any religious anything in them....
Then that same school is just as much under the authority this portion as well....
Just as a school can't force anyone to pray, it cannot punish anyone simply for what they say.
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
Then that same school is just as much under the authority this portion as well....
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or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press
Just as a school can't force anyone to pray, it cannot punish anyone simply for what they say.
Posted on 6/12/15 at 4:26 pm to High C
Absurd he was fired for that. Some dumbass lady teacher also got fired. However her comments were way worse and a firing was warranted.
Posted on 6/12/15 at 4:28 pm to Clyde Tipton
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No one is saying he can't say those things, he just lost his job as a result. He still has the freedom to say those things going forward.
That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works.
Ole Mary Beth Tinker can wear her arm bands all she wants, she just can't do it in public school.
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