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re: Experts want to move the mouth of the river upstream.

Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:18 am to
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57442 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:18 am to
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As it stands right when water reaches the mouth of the Mississippi River it dumps into the gulf, however just a few miles off the mouth right there is the shelf edge, where all this dump that contains land building sediment is going off of. There's no way to stop this. Sediment is being deposited out of the Mississippi in enormous amounts, it's just too bad that it's falling off into extremely deep waters where it poses no good to us.
no it is not. Do some research. the soil isnt making it that far. Look at how much dredging is taking place year to year. It is increasing. the river if filling itself in.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57442 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:21 am to
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The economic aspect of the river shifting west was ground moving, which is why the corps did what they did.
Well i fell at the time of that decision, It was just easier to keep it where it is. i truely believe that is the reason. It wsant because "OMG in 50 years the economy wont survive if it moves east/west/north/south."
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:27 am to
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You said definitively that we would have adapted. There is no way for you to know that


Oh?
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57442 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:28 am to
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You said definitively that we would have adapted. There is no way for you to know that.

well adaption is mandatory. So if the ones that lived down there didnt, sooner or later a storm will take them out. then the ones who live a little north will 100% adapt.
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
6452 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:30 am to
This is clearly over your head.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:32 am to
I agree. Everything from PS south is just two levees and a few hundred yards of land. Could easily move the mouth way up the current location
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57442 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:32 am to
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This is clearly over your head.


yea ok. tell me one think i am wrong about.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21476 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:33 am to
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If the Corps of Engineers had not built levees and prevented it, the mouth would be much further north than it is now, and the coast west of the river would not be in the predicament it is now.

yea and there would be few if any settlements south of NOLA. hell NOLA wouldnt be much bigger than the quarter/downtown, because of the flooding that the MS would cause.


Thanks for adding that. The list goes on and on. Let nature run its course and it will weed out all of the crap.
Posted by roadkill
East Coast, FL
Member since Oct 2008
1842 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:42 am to
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I think estimates range somewhere between .07-.13 inches/year. So maybe 8-15 inches since 1900. We can argue the causes all day long (but not really, intelligent people know why), but sea levels are rising at a significant rate.


BS - I have been on the same east coast area of FL since 1954 (61 years). The sea level has not risen at all - none - nada. Educate yourself and quit believing the pure lies the left spews. You're welcome.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:52 am to
You realize RSLR varies across the globe huh?
Posted by MyNameIsNobody
Member since Dec 2013
1133 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:55 am to
this might help

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Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
14891 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:58 am to
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The only thing keeping the river from moving now are the levees. It wants to shift west already



it isnt levees holding it on course. it's the 3 rivers control structure

which is why some people REALLY started freaking out when the spring flood a few years ago started scouring the earth under the structure
This post was edited on 9/16/15 at 11:59 am
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:00 pm to
The levees have controlled the meandering that the river wants to do
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
14891 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:04 pm to
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The levees have controlled the meandering that the river wants to do



meandering yes, but "shifting west" as the poster i replied to stated, is being prevented by the control structure(s)
Posted by Slippy
Across the rivah
Member since Aug 2005
6580 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:20 pm to
Straw man much? Why are we talking about the control structure? It's irrelevant to the issue at hand, and it is politically impossible. Taking the river away from BR and NO is a nonstarter.

Moving the mouth upstream from where it is would impact a comparatively miniscule population and would benefit the greatest number of people.
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
14891 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:26 pm to
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Straw man much? Why are we talking about the control structure? It's irrelevant to the issue at hand, and it is politically impossible. Taking the river away from BR and NO is a nonstarter.

Moving the mouth upstream from where it is would impact a comparatively miniscule population and would benefit the greatest number of people.


only reason i even mentioned the control structure was because a previous poster said "the levees were keeping the river from moving west"
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:36 pm to
What happens with the land mass that is created/restored? Who gets ownership?
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62790 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:36 pm to
Quit fighting Mother Nature.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:49 pm to
Would take a long time, but I'd guess the state would just make it a WMA, NWR, or national park
Posted by JasonL79
Member since Jan 2010
6397 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 1:04 pm to
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no it is not. Do some research. the soil isnt making it that far. Look at how much dredging is taking place year to year. It is increasing. the river if filling itself in.


Why isn't the soil making it to the end of the river? I'm going to disagree with you there because I know that isn't true. A lot of sediment goes out of the river. I've walked on the land at the end of the river.

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Look at how much dredging is taking place year to year. It is increasing. the river if filling itself in.


Yes the river does fill in every year and is dredged but that doesn't mean that no silt is going off of the shelf. They dredge at the end of the river also.
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