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re: Ex-CFO on Food Stamps after Berating Chik-Fil-A Employee

Posted on 3/26/15 at 8:27 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 3/26/15 at 8:27 pm to
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So?

Did we not have a thread a few weeks ago discussing how it is idiotic that one bad decision ending up on the internet has destroyed lives?

Does that only apply to those who's opinions we agree with?


No. I pretty much agree that it's gotten out of hand.

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Why? You could damn near 100% assure that anything remotely like this would never happen again with this guy.

Unfortunately, it doesn't have to happen "again". The internet is forever. Basic business here. It's no accident that Chic Fil A still is kicking arse. I'm not hiring the a-hole who got internet famous for berating teenage drive through workers as some sort of social statement. Not because I don't think he can do the job but because unfortunately for him, his bull shite very well could end being connected to MY company(even if entirely unfairly). Why would I take that risk? He doesn't have the cure for AIDS. It ain't like he's going to be the only qualified guy I interview and none of the rest will have his baggage.

It isn't like "society" is keeping him from getting a job. It's INDIVIDUALS who don't want to hire him.
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 3/26/15 at 8:29 pm to
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It should be no shock no company is hiring him. No one will hire him as an exec because execs need to posses or at least seem to posses sound judgement. He clearly doesn't have that. I'm sure he could find work if he lowered his expectations a little.
Exactly. His opinions in this video are actually the least of his problems. It's the fact that if you didn't see him in the video, you'd swear he was some a-hole 16 year old who just got his license.
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 3/26/15 at 8:31 pm to
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Of course. This is Tigerdroppings. He expressed a liberal point of view so of course the majority think he should suffer, suffer, then suffer some more.

I guarantee that if the political position had been reversed, they'd be decrying the "PC police" who ruined that poor family's life.


I can't speak to everyone else but, no, I would NOT approve of someone being an arse to some fricking teenage worker. To use a current thing. If some a-hole conservative executive went in and started fricking with some $8 an hour barrista at Starbucks, I'd be like "WTF is wrong with you man".

To me, that's actually the worst part of the video. The GROSS display of poor judgment as to how to handle something.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/26/15 at 8:35 pm to
Huh? I feel bad for the guy but it has dick to do with his opinion

It's his psychotic berating of someone. He thought he was better than her and he gave a person on the bottom of the totem pole shite as if they were the CEO.

He just looks really unstable, stupid, dramatic, and homophobic. Not a good look for a chief financial officer. I'd fire him without hesitation, and would never hire him. No one made him put it on the Internet.
This post was edited on 3/26/15 at 8:37 pm
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 3/26/15 at 8:36 pm to
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Also, it should be pointed out that this dude ABSOLUTELY would have been fine with EVERYONE in Chic Fil A losing their livelihoods.


So you're saying because he's cool with someone losing their livelihood over something insignificant in long run, he's a scumbag who deserves no sympathy for any bad things that happen to him, beyond what is deserving?

I can't lay on the irony any thicker than that, so I really hope you got it.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 3/26/15 at 8:39 pm to
It's not what he deserves. He is just dealing with the consequences of his actions. Welcome to life. You make it sound like someone is doing this to him. He posted this on the Internet. Cry me a river. Feel bad for him, but people pay for their mistakes.
This post was edited on 3/26/15 at 8:41 pm
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 3/26/15 at 8:41 pm to
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It's not what he deserves.


Agreed

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Cry me a river.


The frick?

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Meanwhile Paula deen can't go out in public.


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The frick?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 8:44 pm to
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So you're saying because he's cool with someone losing their livelihood over something insignificant in long run, he's a scumbag who deserves no sympathy for any bad things that happen to him, beyond what is deserving?
Why would I have sympathy for something that someone obviously put serious thought into doing? It wasn't some sudden faux pas.

And, like I said, it appears that he really is no different NOW than he was then. Oh, he's smart enough to not do a video, but he would STILL be totally happy if he could shut Chic Fil A down.

In any case, there is a difference between not having sympathy and think he "deserves" it.

Like I said, what would you do about it? I fricking wouldn't hire him and apparently, neither will a great many liberals in a position to hire him.

Let me ask this. Forget politics for a second. If Remi Lacroix(porn actress) goes on to use her money for education and gets an MBA from Wharton, do you think her porn history will give her grief in the hiring process?

The internet is forever.
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/26/15 at 8:46 pm to
That and he immediately uploaded it himself to show what a badass he is. Not like it was a hidden camera or anything. Dude is a liability at the exec level.
Posted by DelU249
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Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 8:46 pm to
I edited. I'm taking a bad shite right now.

I think about people who were ruined by shite like this and it's often recordings they didn't know about or something they said years ago. Donald sterling got a shittier deal than this guy. He's not complaining about black people on his iPhone and posting it online. Paula deen didn't tweet "n****r". I'm not exactly shedding a tear for them either, you have to be responsible for your actions.

I feel horrible when I hear about people with families who are struggling. I really do. It's not about what people deserve, it's about what they earn. Unfortunately this guy more than earned this. I totally understand his termination, and I totally understand why no one would hire him. He did that to himself. I hope he bounces back. I bet it's humiliating and humbling. The shame he must feel not being able to take care of his family. Hope he bounces back, but make no mistake...he put himself in this position so Im not exactly torn up about it.
This post was edited on 3/26/15 at 8:49 pm
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 3/26/15 at 8:48 pm to
I'm not reading all that and I never once thought of politics with this. I'm laughing at you saying you are fine with him losing his livelihood because he is the type to be fine with someone losing their livelihood.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 8:48 pm to
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That and he immediately uploaded it himself to show what a badass he is. Not like it was a hidden camera or anything. Dude is a liability at the exec level.


AND THIS is why he is still unemployed. There are PLENTY of hiring authorities out there who likely share his opinions about Chic Fil A. That's not keeping him from getting hired.

It's the fact he's an a-hole that's his problem. The opinions in the video are the least offensive part of the video.

And yes, he STILL appears to be an a-hole.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 8:52 pm to
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I'm not reading all that and I never once thought of politics with this. I'm laughing at you saying you are fine with him losing his livelihood because he is the type to be fine with someone losing their livelihood.
Well then, you are not tracking correctly. I merely observed that I damn sure don't have sympathy for a guy getting what he would STILL happily dish out to someone else.

That's no different than if I saw a video of a guy who sucker punched someone ending up getting an absolute arse kicking and said I have no sympathy for it because he wanted to kick their arse.

I don't run around sucker punching people. I also don't go out making stupid videos and, I also don't engage in trying to ruin people for their opinions.

This guy WANTS to ruin Chic Fil A for an opinion. That it ended up biting him in the arse is the same as the sucker punch guy getting his arse kicked.

NO SYMPATHY.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 3/26/15 at 8:53 pm to
I get what you're saying, but if the guy who sucker punched someone got his arse kicked every day for three years, I'd have some sympathy for him too.

Eta: I guarantee the girl from the video who everyone agrees seems to be of high character would say she feels bad that he's been unable to find work for this long because of the incident.
This post was edited on 3/26/15 at 8:56 pm
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 3/26/15 at 8:55 pm to
The only reason this dpuche ever apologized at all was because of the public backlash I can assure you he was never sorry for how he acted that day.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 8:56 pm to
It doesn't help when the only glimpse the world has of you is a wild harangue terrorizing a young woman who is just trying to pay rent.

Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 8:58 pm to
I agree, and that's because he might be gay. I guess I would describe homophobia as fear of being perceived as gay. Clearly demonstrates that, so why was he so passionate?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 8:59 pm to
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I get what you're saying, but if the guy who sucker punched someone got his arse kicked every day for three years, I'd have some sympathy for him too.
Meh. It was the best analogy I could use on the fly.

Besides, read this quote from he was fired.
quote:

We respect the right of our employees and all Americans to hold and express their personal opinions, however, we also expect our company officers to behave in a manner commensurate with their position and in a respectful fashion that conveys these values of civility with others.'


You see, THIS is why he's unemployed. He didn't get fired for his opinions. He got fired for being a fricking executive that behaves like a teenager.

And, even if you think that's not why he was fired, that's why no one wants to touch him now.

It does suck for him, but like I said before, this wasn't exactly some spur of the moment thing. This guy put a great deal of thought into putting a gun to his career's proverbial head and pulling the trigger.


Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/26/15 at 9:01 pm to
I agree. He was especially dumb for posting it to the world.

I'd still given it about a 6/10 on the harassment scale. He even said she deserved better (which is a compliment in a way).

I've gotten heated with customer service because of something their employer did. I've told a repeat telemarketing caller to frick off even though they were just going their job. We all have.

Again, this guy seems like a tool and someone I'd dislike in a social setting, but it's still a shame that the consequences of his relatively minor action have gone so far. And sucks especially for his kids.
This post was edited on 3/26/15 at 9:02 pm
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 9:07 pm to
Everything's got a price. Minor action? Maybe. He's a bully though. Had that been a 6'2 dude with muscles, I'm not so sure he'd feel so empowered. That video does unfortunately say a lot about him, none of it good
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