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re: Everyone should request an itemized hospital bill, it is really interesting
Posted on 4/23/24 at 3:00 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
Posted on 4/23/24 at 3:00 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
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pharmaceutical companies charges 300x what the price of their medicines are actually worth
They only charge that in the U.S.. Europe has legislation banning them from doing it over there. (In Europe the governments sets drug prices and the pharma companies have little say in the matter).
So essentially the U.S. is the only country that allows them to screw us.
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 3:02 pm to GetCocky11
It’s almost equally as asinine how expensive some prescription medication is.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 3:04 pm to Earnest_P
Now list what the charge is for those who are here illegally and go to the hospital.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 3:05 pm to Earnest_P
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Are all of us except the legitimately wealthy just waiting for things to get so out of control that some absurd unpayable medical bill or home expense ruins us?
You just get on a payment plan- $100/month until forever, but at least it's no interest, right?
Posted on 4/23/24 at 3:05 pm to GetCocky11
My wife had 2 surgeries on each foot within a year to meet deductible. Pins and Fusions.
2 years later, one of the pins started working it's way out and protruding through her skin. called Doc and he said you're probably fused, come on in and i'll cut unscrew and put a dissolving suture on there. 15 minutes in and out. no paperwork. no nurse.
got a bill for $8k 4 months later. I said, no, you don't charge $32k an hour. I'd like a line item bill.
"we don't do that."
then we don't pay that. never heard back from them after that.
2 years later, one of the pins started working it's way out and protruding through her skin. called Doc and he said you're probably fused, come on in and i'll cut unscrew and put a dissolving suture on there. 15 minutes in and out. no paperwork. no nurse.
got a bill for $8k 4 months later. I said, no, you don't charge $32k an hour. I'd like a line item bill.
"we don't do that."
then we don't pay that. never heard back from them after that.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 3:06 pm to Walt OReilly
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It’s criminal what they charge
And most of them supported the vax and said masks work.
They also called ivermectin horse paste and supported government blocks of medicine that helped.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 3:08 pm to GetCocky11
It's all fricking criminal, and they purposely hide the costs from you. When you are in the midst of an emergency, medical crisis or procedure... should you really have to ask if "this is included or will it be extra" every time they do something?
Just recently had to take a kid to the Dr. for something that was going on, and they sent us to another Dr. where they did x-rays. Silly me. I guess I expected my insurance to cover all that, but instead I got a near 4 digit bill for it. I refused to pay it until I understood how an office visit turned into this. I haven't received any follow up, but I do expect a collections notice since it's pretty much all automated and inhuman now, anyway.
Just recently had to take a kid to the Dr. for something that was going on, and they sent us to another Dr. where they did x-rays. Silly me. I guess I expected my insurance to cover all that, but instead I got a near 4 digit bill for it. I refused to pay it until I understood how an office visit turned into this. I haven't received any follow up, but I do expect a collections notice since it's pretty much all automated and inhuman now, anyway.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 3:10 pm to AUstar
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So essentially the U.S. is the only country that allows them to screw us.
But that's what we're talking about. You're not getting a $42k bill from insurance companies in Europe.
My wife (no pics) works on insurance contracts and they make very little sense. There is no rhyme or reason as to why insurance companies pay/decline bills. There is no science for how much things should actually charge. The only thing that matters is if an insurance company deems something "necessary" or not.
Fun fact: almost every single emergency air lift will not be paid by insurance companies. $100k flight ALONE. Deemed "not necessary." Why is that?
The U.S Government allows for this shite to prosper.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 3:18 pm to Earnest_P
quote:It's happened, you can be sure of it.
Are all of us except the legitimately wealthy just waiting for things to get so out of control that some absurd unpayable medical bill or home expense ruins us?
Posted on 4/23/24 at 3:19 pm to GetCocky11
People continue to confuse “charges” and actual “collections.”
You can thank the government for this.
You can thank the government for this.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 3:22 pm to GetCocky11
4.61 per minute of anesthesia seems a damn bargain.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 3:24 pm to GetCocky11
you should see a heart surgery bill
Posted on 4/23/24 at 3:24 pm to GetCocky11
That’s wild, feel like it’s only possible bc of insurance though, there is no way anyone in there right mind pays that
Posted on 4/23/24 at 3:25 pm to tigerfoot
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4.61 per minute of anesthesia seems a damn bargain.
I'll take $20 worth!!!
Posted on 4/23/24 at 3:49 pm to Walt OReilly
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It’s criminal what they charge
My parent's neighbor was a surgeon, lived in a great neighborhood best house on the block. Told my dad that his monthly malpractice insurance was more than his mortgage payments.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 3:56 pm to GetCocky11
I agree. I was in the hospital for new onset Afib in February. I was there for 40 hrs, 17 of them sitting in the ER waiting for an inpatient bed, 27k. 13k for freaking IV fluids. Also, I’m an employee at the hospital.
This post was edited on 4/23/24 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 4/23/24 at 4:02 pm to GetCocky11
How much did the insurance company actually pay?
Posted on 4/23/24 at 4:06 pm to winkchance
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They also called ivermectin horse paste and supported government blocks of medicine that helped.
CNN and TV doctors =/= all doctors
Ivermectin was used before, during, and after COVID for different treatments in humans. That shite was all political.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 4:06 pm to AUstar
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They only charge that in the U.S.. Europe has legislation banning them from doing it over there. (In Europe the governments sets drug prices and the pharma companies have little say in the matter). So essentially the U.S. is the only country that allows them to screw us.
Yep the US population has to pay for all the R&D and company profit as part of our drug prices and the rest of the world just pays the actual drug price.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 4:08 pm to TigerintheNO
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My parent's neighbor was a surgeon, lived in a great neighborhood best house on the block. Told my dad that his monthly malpractice insurance was more than his mortgage payments.
Hell yeah it is. MedMal is insane. Doctors get sued all the damn time.
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