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re: England vs USA -- Why is the English language every country's second language?

Posted on 7/29/16 at 7:37 am to
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 7/29/16 at 7:37 am to
I'm in Europe right now. Was in Estonia,Latvia and Lithuania and everyone speaks great English.
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 7/29/16 at 7:41 am to
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the fact that most content on the Internet is in English really accelerated the trend. If you live in Podunkstan and want to improve your prospects, you must learn English.



Or install Google Translate, but your point still stands.
This post was edited on 7/29/16 at 7:44 am
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 7/29/16 at 7:48 am to
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1. The British Empire

2. Exported American culture


Because of both of these...English is the language of business. It started with the British Pound, but since WWII has been because of the U.S. Dollar. It's easier to do business with people you can communicate with.
Posted by JAXTiger16
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Posted on 7/29/16 at 7:49 am to
I find it really interesting after traveling to many foreign countries how much of them speak English (besides a few 3rd world). The biggest surprise was that Singapores first language is English.

As far as the answer, England has been around far longer than we have so I would have to go with them overall. But we are a close second due to Hollywood.
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 7/29/16 at 7:51 am to
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At this point in time, which country do you think has had the most influence on the popularity of English across the globe?


Right now, the US of A.

Historically, obviously England/British Empire.
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 7/29/16 at 7:53 am to
Boo, you beer mavens need to plan a trip to Asheville. Was there this past weekend...a LOT going on.

I promise to stay away.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 7/29/16 at 7:54 am to
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This. French was the "language of business" until the 50s when American multi-nationals began to dominate the globe.



Yep. French, for its relatively low speaker total, is still one of the most prominent secondary languages, of course.

French is still a relatively common substitute in Europe for transactions between people who don't share the same native tongue.
Posted by Bmath
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Posted on 7/29/16 at 7:56 am to
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No it isn't.


Most scientific literature and conferences are in English.

China has more English speakers than the USA. In fact, I'm working in a lab right now where many of the Chinese speak to each other in English because they don't share a common Chinese dialect.
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 7/29/16 at 7:58 am to
I have been fairly recently, great place.
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:00 am to
Posted by HideChaKidz
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Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:06 am to
The English that other countries like China and India learn is the British version. Accent wise.

But yes, English is the default language and it's honestly not even close. When I go to a random city in China and stores everywhere have English signs and workers that make 450US$ a month can speak it, it pretty much tells you all you need to know.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:11 am to
It's America more than the British. Yes colonialism helped, but the Spanish Empire really did more to conquer a continent than the British did. They mostly just ruled over an already established population, while the Native Americans were pretty much just wiped out.
Posted by eitek1
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Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:45 am to
So what language is the default for airline pilots.

That's right... English.
Posted by ctiger69
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Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:47 am to
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English is apparently the second language in the USA now too.



This is very true. You now need a passport to enter the Mexican northern providence known as Texas. Texas is one of the nicer places of Mexico.
Posted by crazycubes
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Posted on 7/29/16 at 9:37 am to
The British Navy back in the 1700's and 1800's.
Posted by mdomingue
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Posted on 7/29/16 at 9:46 am to
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China has more English speakers than the USA.


I believe that it is more correct to say their are more English writers than speakers. Most of Asia requires English for anyone seeking a college degree and most technical fields. But my experience is that their speaking skills are minimal to the point of non existent at times. The emphasis is on writing and comprehending written English. I do think that has and is improving, though.

And to answer the original question, it is simply commerce that prompts that. Started with Brittish imperialism but was really cemented and exploded with American capitalism and industrial innovation.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 7/29/16 at 9:48 am to
English is adaptable like few other languages. The local dialect easily borrows words and phrases from the indigenous language.
Posted by slinger1317
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Posted on 7/29/16 at 9:55 am to
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If a Japanese guy goes to Beijing and checks into a hotel, he'll do it in English.

Someone from Finland grabbing a beer in a Belgian bar, orders that beer in English.


A couple of years ago I was in Germany boarding a plane and the gate agent was German and he was arguing with a French passenger. They were both speaking English. Blew my mind.
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 7/29/16 at 10:02 am to
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China has more English speakers than the USA. In fact, I'm working in a lab right now where many of the Chinese speak to each other in English because they don't share a common Chinese dialect.

India is the same way.
Posted by Redbone
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Posted on 7/29/16 at 10:39 am to
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English is apparently the second language in the USA now too.

Press 1 to read the rest of this post in espanol.

All soon to change. Better teach your kids to speak whatever the muslims speak.

You might buy a black pillow case and make your daughters wear it over them too.
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