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re: Earth's carrying capacity, population and consumption trends

Posted on 7/24/16 at 10:03 am to
Posted by Honky Lips
Member since Dec 2015
2828 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 10:03 am to
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I don't want to eat GMOs here in the States, but places like Africa need them.


This.
Posted by KittenKuddler
Gliese 581c
Member since Jul 2006
612 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 10:07 am to
Watch the movie Interstellar - we're on a path for the living conditions shown in that movie (albeit it may take a while to reach that extreme) Our options as a human race are simple, yet each solution is complicated.

A. Colonize a new planet in its early stages suitable for our population size and needs

B. Determine a way to sustain life on earth with technology and science. We may need to start reducing population growth rate to accomodate plan.

C. Die out and the earth will either naturally recycle, or cease to be habitable for life as we know it, where it becomes another Mars like planet.

Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68039 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 10:09 am to
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Though difficult to truly estimate, most researchers agree that the Earth's carrying capacity is somewhere between 9 and 10 billion


Not this crap again. Researchers have been saying similar foolishness since the 1950s and 60s.

Remember the oh so accurate book from 1968, The Population Bomb?
quote:

The battle to feed all of humanity is over. In the 1970s hundreds of millions of people will starve to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now. At this late date nothing can prevent a substantial increase in the world death rate...

Brilliant liberals, we should heed their dramatic warnings.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 10:26 am to
You don't understand what adaptability is, do you? People and technology change constantly, so you can't ever stick a number on it
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17314 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 10:27 am to
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Our options as a human race are simple, yet each solution is complicated.


D. Allow what's already happening continue and let this myth die.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
17767 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 10:29 am to
Global warming will make longer growing seasons and make mass food production possible in extreme north America and northern Russia.


If you believe in that stuff
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27816 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 10:30 am to
quote:

Watch the movie Interstellar - we're on a path for the living conditions shown in that movie (albeit it may take a while to reach that extreme) Our options as a human race are simple, yet each


Posted by KittenKuddler
Gliese 581c
Member since Jul 2006
612 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 10:43 am to
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D. Allow what's already happening continue and let this myth die.



So your solution is to not try and sustain life on earth? Brilliant plan.

Do you not acknowledge if we do nothing at all, that we have no opportunity to affect our outcome?
Posted by KittenKuddler
Gliese 581c
Member since Jul 2006
612 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 10:44 am to
Cool gif, but care to make an actual argument? It's not far fetched to think we're going to see extreme living conditions if we fail to figure out ways to extend or sustain life on earth.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162194 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 10:45 am to
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What are your thoughts?


Global birth rates have been on the decline for decades

While the population will continue to grow through the next several decades, eventually it will reach a peak and start declining. And we'll be right back at 7 billion.

Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162194 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 10:45 am to
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I don't want to eat GMOs here in the States, but places like Africa need them.


What's wrong with GMO crops?

I'll give you a hint: nothing. I bet you think vaccines cause autism too you moron.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
123923 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 10:49 am to
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Its the third world nations who are still producing large quantities of babies. Baby producing in this country has hit the brakes hard over the last 50 years.



Not for certain segments of the population...
Posted by TigahTeeth
Georgia
Member since Feb 2016
5168 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 10:51 am to
Homosexuality is increasing so reproduction will decrease. The queers are going to save us!! WTF?!?!
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
123923 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 11:05 am to
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That's 1 billion Muslims, Africans, and poor Indians that will have no role in the world, and will lack the physical environment and resources to provide for themselves.


And what poisonous ideology is common among these three? Maybe one that will foment and justify violence in the name of expanding territory and resources?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84609 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 11:09 am to
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Maybe we shouldn't subsidize the breeding of people who couldn't make it on their own then.



I'm not sure if you're talking about globally or here in the US, but I've got a feeling it's the latter. Fwiw, the United States currently reproduces at a rate below the replacement rate. In other words, our population will begin to shrink if left alone.

ETA I see this has been covered numerous times since the post to which I replied.
This post was edited on 7/24/16 at 11:12 am
Posted by Heathens
Oxford, MS
Member since Jul 2016
716 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 11:10 am to
I'll be 55 then, I suspect they will start killing off the old
Posted by Langland
Trumplandia
Member since Apr 2014
15382 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 11:14 am to
Birth rates and deaths rates will be near equilibrium around 2050.
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
4448 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 11:15 am to
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Cool gif, but care to make an actual argument?


You made a radical comment with no basis in reality. You deserve a mocking gif more than a counter argument
This post was edited on 7/24/16 at 11:16 am
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17314 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 11:22 am to
quote:

Cool gif, but care to make an actual argument? It's not far fetched to think we're going to see extreme living conditions if we fail to figure out ways to extend or sustain life on earth


Yes it is. We aren't doing nothing. Technology is advancing, and growth rates are slowing. Do a little more investigation into the subject beyond a sci fi movie before proclaiming that the sky is falling.
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
28882 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 11:24 am to
I'll be 67 years old. IDGAF
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