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Due to the Heroin epidemic in the white community

Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:00 pm
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2495 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:00 pm
Why do so many OTers blame the Drs. and the government for making it harder for getting pain meds and not the people for having self will to not abuse pain meds?
This post was edited on 1/3/16 at 11:01 pm
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
123923 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:01 pm to
Because prohibition, of anything, does nothing but make the problem worse.

Making pain pills harder to get simply upped their value and pushed more people into heroin to feed their addiction.

We criminalize things instead of focusing on intensive treatment centers.
This post was edited on 1/3/16 at 11:03 pm
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
35348 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:04 pm to
They blame doctors for making the scrip drugs easily available, then the government for regulating them and making them difficult to obtain, which causes users to go to the cheapest and best thing, heroin.

The whole self will thing is a touchy subject.

ETA: What fr33 said basically.

EETA: I also see your racist agenda too, and as a former heroin addict myself, the problem is just as bad, if not worse, in the black community. Difference is, more white people shoot it so it equates to more deaths and more publicity. Also, I've never banged and mostly was in the hood so my sources are first hand.
This post was edited on 1/3/16 at 11:34 pm
Posted by HogBalls
Member since Nov 2014
8587 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:04 pm to
Once a Dr gets you taking the high power pain meds there is no such thing as self will.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41291 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:04 pm to
What is the "white community"?
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
COINTELPRO Fan
Member since May 2012
55548 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:05 pm to
I always kind of roll my eyes when people blame doctors or the government. Junkies are junkies, no outside force makes them stick needles in their arm.

Not to mention the double standard when it comes to how *they* talk about black crack heads.
Posted by RockAndRollDetective
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2014
4506 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:08 pm to
quote:

What is the "white community"?

People who buy clothes from the Gap do a lot of heroin?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259906 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:10 pm to
Because as usual, government took a bad problem and made it worse.
Posted by HaveMercy
Member since Dec 2014
3000 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:14 pm to
quote:

Because as usual, government took a bad problem and made it worse


As it always does...
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:15 pm to
well, you know, personal responsibility only applies to certain types.
And I'll add that most of these young people using heroine did not get started by going to their doctor after back surgery.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120172 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:15 pm to
Watch it. If you preach personal responsibility in our society today it means you are a mean, selfish, hateful person.
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2495 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:19 pm to
the same people blaming Doctors and the government for this are that same people who blame mcdonalds for obesity. Don't act naive either like people don't purposely got to the drs. to get pain meds even before they get addicted but just to get the high.
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
Member since Jul 2013
11423 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:19 pm to
Stats?
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2495 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:20 pm to
Exactly any excuse to say it's not their own fault
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259906 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:20 pm to
quote:

And I'll add that most of these young people using heroine did not get started by going to their doctor after back surgery.


Not all addicted to opiates are white

Stupid thread
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:23 pm to
I agree with you. I think drug addicts are degenerate pieces of shite. But I downvoted you anyway because you are racist. frick you, StrongSafety.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27812 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:26 pm to
The green Herons are beautiful birds, the blue ones..not so much. Are they only landing around white people? I can see how this might be a race problem, communication is the first problem. Does anybody here speak Heron?
Posted by ATL-TIGER-732
ATL
Member since Jun 2013
2291 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:28 pm to
quote:

Why do so many OTers blame the Drs. and the government for making it harder for getting pain meds

You have to legislate for the lowest common denominator. And that gets lower every year......
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
7995 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:28 pm to
quote:

the same people blaming Doctors and the government for this are that same people who blame mcdonalds for obesity. Don't act naive either like people don't purposely got to the drs. to get pain meds even before they get addicted but just to get the high.


Well, that's really an imperfect analogy.

Some of the blame for the opiate epidemic in the U.S. goes to the government for a variety of reasons, not only the pain medication policies but also a misguided attempt to eradicate hardcore drug use, a lack of treatment facilities, and a lot of other things. Just like the government carries some blame in the obesity epidemic as well, mostly through subsidy policies.

Don't get me wrong: the lion's share of the blame still falls on individuals. I've had two major orthopedic surgeries in the past 18 months (a reconstructed ankle and a smashed wrist with several broken bones), and I still managed not to get hooked on Oxy or Norco or whatever, but an objective overview of the problem naturally leads one to assign some blame to the federal and local governments. A lot of it is cultural as well. Long story short: in the United States, the government tends to frick shite up a lot more than they ever help.

You want to take a look at a place where the heroin problem is absolutely out of control due in no small part to state policies? Check out the opiate problems in Iran.
Posted by HaveMercy
Member since Dec 2014
3000 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:30 pm to
quote:

Once a Dr gets you taking the high power pain meds there is no such thing as self will.


I am almost tempted to agree with that statement.
I had surgery recently and was prescribed percocet. I could easily see myself getting hooked on it - it was awesome - I didn't give a shite about anything. I would actually look forward to my next dose.
If I am really worked up over something, a Lortab and a glass of red wine is the perfect antecdote; but I never crave another when it wears off. After day 4 of that Percocet, I got a little freaked out and threw them away. Scary...
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