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re: DR Horton new construction framing finds by home inspector

Posted on 4/27/24 at 6:52 pm to
Posted by StayStrapped
Member since Apr 2024
54 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 6:52 pm to
Cy has awesome videos and he's pretty much scared me away from ever buying a new construction home.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25670 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 6:53 pm to
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Buy a home built between 1920 and 1950.


Those have their own set of issues.

You can get a high-quality house built today you just can't go in asking for the most square footage at the cheapest price per foot. Just being frank that is the way most houses are built today.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
6832 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 7:10 pm to
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Those have their own set of issues.


My home was built in 1922. I’d put it up against anything being built today. This house will outlive me. The quality of lumber used is far superior to what is used today. Has a granite foundation. Roof decking is dual layered 2 by 4 not plywood. Can go on and on. You are playing Russian roulette buying a modern construction house today built by the labor being used. No thanks.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25670 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 7:48 pm to
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My home was built in 1922. I’d put it up against anything being built today.


You didn't mention anything about plumbing, electrical, HVAC, and insulation.

In some cases, they can be retrofitted to modern standards but it is always expensive and sometimes impossible.

You can build a home in 2024 that will have life longer than your home it is just a matter of being willing to pay for it and find the right architect, engineer, GC, and subs to do the work.

Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48575 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 7:48 pm to
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Do people actually buy houses from.DR Horton?

They built our starter house. There wasn't a 90 degree angle in that place
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
6832 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 7:52 pm to
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You can build a home in 2024 that will have life longer than your home it is just a matter of being willing to pay for it and find the right architect, engineer, GC, and subs to do the work.



I’d imagine the percentage of people actually doing this is very low. It’s all about throwing stuff together as fast as possible with prefabricated materials and low iq labor who simply don’t give a shite about what they are doing.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30580 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 8:01 pm to
Dr Seuss’ Horton Hears a Structural Failure Over Your Head
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
16875 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 8:04 pm to
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I’d think the average time owning a DR Horton home is 5 years or less so who cares. If you’re looking for your lifetime ownership in a mass produced house, you deserve what you get.


What a dumb take. So let’s just allow DR Horton to build crappy houses go unchecked.
This post was edited on 4/28/24 at 7:17 am
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30800 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 8:06 pm to
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Some do, some don't.


They all pass and that's the problem. They shouldn't pass, the issues should be fixed. The inspectors need to be held accountable for allowing the crap to pass. They're taking bribes or hunting trip or whatever.

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And as a custom home builder, I am obviously biased in that opinion.


And as a subcontractor, we could never get away with the crap their subs get away with.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25670 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 8:06 pm to
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I’d imagine the percentage of people actually doing this is very low. It’s all about throwing stuff together as fast as possible with prefabricated materials and low iq labor who simply don’t give a shite about what they are doing.


If you go back and look that is exactly what I said in my original post. Most houses today are built to a price point, not a standard. That doesn't mean that houses built to incredibly high standards can't be constructed today. Still, it will only happen if one is willing to spend the money and brings together a team with the same vision and ability to accomplish it.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113964 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 8:24 pm to
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If the houses are passing the ahj inspections then those parish/city inspectors need to be held accountable as well


I used to work for a parish permit & building inspection department. This was years ago and it is probably different for each parish, but if an inspector knows the contractor there are times when things might get signed off without the inspector going out to the site. If he is busy, he might just glance at the house plans and give the thumbs up.

Not to mention, you don't know what joker.. some friend of a friend's brother they might have as building inspector. Its probably better to hire an inspector. They earn their money by finding shite wrong.
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
3140 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 8:30 pm to
As a designer/builder, it’s just as easy to do it correctly as incorrectly. That’s what gets me. And yes, I was a project manager for DR a long time ago. Quality was high on the list back then. It’s awful now.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20529 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 8:30 pm to
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Do people actually buy houses from.DR Horton?


They only sell 85,000 or so houses per year.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30800 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 8:32 pm to
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but if an inspector knows the contractor there are times when things might get signed off without the inspector going out to the site. If he is busy, he might just glance at the house plans and give the thumbs up.


It's really shitty that you don't realize this is the problem.

Inspector needs to go the site and verify what they are inspecting.

Posted by jafari rastaman
Member since Nov 2015
1832 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 8:38 pm to
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Whatever you say Doctor Horton.


Sure, if I’m sick I’ll go see Doctor Horton. But after watching that video, I’m not going to buy a house from the Doctor.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28191 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 8:43 pm to
Lumber was better.

Post pics of the trim work.

Oh, nvm, it isn't original b/c it was crap.

"Old world" construction is vastly over-rated
Posted by CowboySimpkins
Member since Feb 2024
74 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 8:44 pm to
Literally no one gives a frick
Posted by AlextheBodacious
Member since Oct 2020
1475 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:08 pm to
DR Horton

Hugo De Angelis builds safer homes.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63346 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:41 pm to
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I used to work for a parish permit & building inspection department. This was years ago and it is probably different for each parish, but if an inspector knows the contractor there are times when things might get signed off without the inspector going out to the site. If he is busy, he might just glance at the house plans and give the thumbs up.

Not to mention, you don't know what joker.. some friend of a friend's brother they might have as building inspector. Its probably better to hire an inspector. They earn their money by finding shite wrong.


Why didn't you put a stop to this? You could've been the whistleblower that changed the direction of the entire home real estate industry while salvaging thousands of homes and dreams.
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
8660 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:55 pm to
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DSLD and DR Horton don’t even belong in the same sentence.

DSLD is still cookie cutter, but it’s much better build quality and reputation


Thanks
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