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re: Don't take the Bible literally says scholar who brought earliest Latin analysis of Gospels
Posted on 8/28/17 at 8:27 am to RollTide1987
Posted on 8/28/17 at 8:27 am to RollTide1987
Also...I'd love to see this ancient bishop's writings in their true context. History tends to regard the man in question as a believer in Arianism. If this is the case, it's quite possible that the man's commentaries on the passages of the Gospels are tainted with his own personal interpretations.
We have plenty, and I mean PLENTY of writings from this same period from leaders in the Church. Just about all of them regard the events portrayed in the Gospels as historical fact. I'm sure Fortunatianus did, too. Otherwise he wouldn't have risen to the rank of bishop.
He may merely refer to the passages where Christ claims to be one with the Father as parables. That would have fallen in line with his Arianistic beliefs that Christ and God were two separate entities.
We have plenty, and I mean PLENTY of writings from this same period from leaders in the Church. Just about all of them regard the events portrayed in the Gospels as historical fact. I'm sure Fortunatianus did, too. Otherwise he wouldn't have risen to the rank of bishop.
He may merely refer to the passages where Christ claims to be one with the Father as parables. That would have fallen in line with his Arianistic beliefs that Christ and God were two separate entities.
This post was edited on 8/28/17 at 8:30 am
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Posted on 8/28/17 at 8:39 am to sugar71
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Who gets to choose what is meant literally or figuratively?
The writers?
Posted on 8/28/17 at 8:51 am to RollTide1987
Passages where Christ claims to be one with the Father
Jesus was the "word made flesh".
He represented the essence or spirit of God. He lived as a human to relate to the people and teach. He was tempted and felt pain. But, his words were from God.
It's like saying that your words are representations of how you feel, and who you are.
Unless you're a troll. There's a place waiting for you.
Jesus was the "word made flesh".
He represented the essence or spirit of God. He lived as a human to relate to the people and teach. He was tempted and felt pain. But, his words were from God.
It's like saying that your words are representations of how you feel, and who you are.
Unless you're a troll. There's a place waiting for you.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 9:06 am to Good Times
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But, his words were from God.
That's because he was God.
The Word is God and Christ was the Word made flesh.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 9:19 am to HempHead
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Man, Martin Luther really fricked up Christendom.
Yeah over 33,000 denominations all professing to be Christian. So much for reformation.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 9:24 am to biglego
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The Catholic Church is less anti-science than Islam or some Protestants. There's even an astronomy wing in the Vatican.
Also, the Big Bang theory was formulated by a Catholic priest. Gregor Mendel, the father of modern genetics was a Catholic monk. The list goes on.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 9:37 am to tommy2tone1999
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Yeah over 33,000 denominations all professing to be Christian. So much for reformation.
The Protestant Reformation was Satan's greatest victory over God. The ramifications continue to be felt to this very day.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 9:49 am to airfernando
This is the best advice anyone reading the rant will ever receive......
Posted on 8/28/17 at 10:29 am to SoBELSUFan
Well, looks like the thread got the anchor.
Lasted longer than I thought it would.
Lasted longer than I thought it would.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:35 am to RollTide1987
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The Protestant Reformation was Satan's greatest victory over God.
So God isnt sovereign over His creation? Satan only does what God allows. There is no "victory" over God. That assertion alone is laughable and if you believe such nonsense, you might as well not believe in the first place.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:53 am to Dick Leverage
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Cain and Abel were the first two children mentioned due to their significance in the story. Doesn't mean that there were not others born before them. They were mentioned because it is the first recorded murder and played a big role in the direction that "fallen" man would take.
You didn't answer the question. Where did they get their wives?
Posted on 8/28/17 at 3:59 pm to Mo Jeaux
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It wasn't two of every species. For instance, the dinosaurs refused to get on the Ark, so he didn't have to take them.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 5:08 pm to Mo Jeaux
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For instance, the dinosaurs refused to get on the Ark, so he didn't have to take them.
I'm so sorry Rex, the Ark is full.
Posted on 8/30/17 at 12:38 am to bamafan1001
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So God isnt sovereign over His creation? Satan only does what God allows. There is no "victory" over God. That assertion alone is laughable and if you believe such nonsense, you might as well not believe in the first place.
God gave man choice, and Satan plays on man's free will and propensity for worldly weakness. Sorry no one taught you that
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