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Don't take the Bible literally says scholar who brought earliest Latin analysis of Gospels

Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:16 pm
Posted by Bench McElroy
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:16 pm
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The earliest Latin interpretation of the Gospels has been brought to light by a British academic – and it suggests that readers should not take the Bible literally.

Lost for 1,500 years, the fourth-century commentary by African-born Italian bishop Fortunatianus of Aquileia interprets the Gospels as a series of allegories instead of a literal history.

Dr Hugh Houghton, of the University of Birmingham, who translated the work, said it was an approach which modern Christians could learn from.

"There's been an assumption that it's a literal record of truth - a lot of the early scholars got very worried about inconsistencies between Matthew and Luke, for example.

"But for people teaching the Bible in the fourth century, it's not the literal meaning which is important, it's how it's read allegorically.

"In contemporary Biblical scholarship a lot of the gospels are written with symbolism in mind.

"They are not setting out to be literal accounts but they are set out to be symbolic."


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This post was edited on 8/27/17 at 7:19 pm
Posted by airfernando
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:19 pm to
I advise people to take Jesus's death, burial, and resurrection as highly literal and accept his payment for sin.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:20 pm to
No shite? You're saying a 500 year old guy and his sons didn't really build an enormous ship in a week with Bronze Age technology, and then fill it with two of every animal on earth?


Fascinating
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:22 pm to
Man, Martin Luther really fricked up Christendom.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:23 pm to
I encourage people to do the same for atheist teachings like evolution.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:34 pm to
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This has been the basis for beliefs such as the idea that the earth is 6,000 years old and that it was created in seven days.


I'm Catholic, and have never once taken this as literal, no matter how much some people want to act like it is.

There are several things in the Bible that I've never understood how anyone can take as literal. Adam and Eve for instance--two people are the parentage of all of mankind? Yes, it had to start somewhere, but the idea that two people started it is alittle hard to believe. With that amount of incest going on, unless they were immune to all the nasty side-effects nowadays, Adam and Eve must have been super humans for us to be what we are.

Noah is another. That's one big ark to save all those animals. Then there's the whole "starting over" thing, which surely meant a lot of incest again.

As far as "inconsistencies" between two of the gospels though, I mean, come on! As if it's hard to believe that two people would tell a story differently.

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I encourage people to do the same for atheist teachings like evolution.


The Catholic church actually doesn't oppose the theory of evolution. What it does hold sacred is that humans were given a soul by God. That the soul was not a result of evolution.
This post was edited on 8/28/17 at 7:50 am
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:35 pm to
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I advise people to take Jesus's death, burial, and resurrection as highly literal and accept his payment for sin.


Posted by heatom2
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:36 pm to
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Don't take the Bible seriously



FIFY
Posted by Collegedropout
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:38 pm to
You're Catholic yet know nothing about how the Catholic Church believes in Evolution and doesn't take the Bible literally at all?
Posted by Shepherd88
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:39 pm to
Just FYI, There are more copies of the New Testament than any other ancient document, including the classics whose authenticity we don’t give a second thought. We have but a handful of copies of most ancient documents, compared with almost 6,000 copies of the New Testament. A notable exception is Homer’s “Iliad,” but the number of copies pales in comparison with those we possess of the New Testament.

And to quote C.S. Lewis a former atheist converted Christian, "Christianity, if false, is of no importance, and if true, is of the most importance."
Posted by Cowboyfan89
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:40 pm to
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You're Catholic yet know nothing about how the Catholic Church believes in Evolution and doesn't take the Bible literally at all?


Did I say the Catholic Church takes it literally? No. I said I've never understood how anyone takes it literally.
Posted by Collegedropout
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:44 pm to
You said "the church". I thought it was pretty obvious you were talking about your Catholic Church, that you had just mentioned...
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:44 pm to
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I'm Catholic, and have never once taken this as literal, no matter how much the church wants to act like it is.

I'm catholic also, and don't recall the church telling me the earth was 7,000 years old. But in religion class, we were taught the Bible stories as if they're history.

It's always been pretty clear to me that early genesis chapters were mythological in nature. They are broad in scope and vague (which indicates an oral tradition that the audience would have known more details about).

The Gospels are always taught as historical accounts.
Posted by eric4UA08
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:45 pm to
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You're saying a 500 year old guy and his sons didn't really build an enormous ship in a week with Bronze Age technology,


Obviously you're trolling a little here, but I'll still note that (regardless of its truth or not) I am pretty sure the book of Genesis points out that it took well over 100 years to build.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:47 pm to
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The Catholic church actually doesn't oppose the theory of evolution.

The Catholic Church is less anti-science than Islam or some Protestants. There's even an astronomy wing in the Vatican.
Posted by Abadeebadaba
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:50 pm to
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No shite? You're saying a 500 year old guy and his sons didn't really build an enormous ship in a week with Bronze Age technology, and then fill it with two of every animal on earth?


And then live with said animals for a year and 10 days. How much food and water could be stored on this ark? On top of that, all these animals lived in perfect harmony with each other? I love a good story, but damn.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:52 pm to
A misspeak on my part. I meant to say people, as I did later.
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:52 pm to
Are there people with IQs above room temperature who actually take Noah's story as undeniable fact?
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:52 pm to
quote:

Obviously you're trolling a little here, but I'll still note that (regardless of its truth or not) I am pretty sure the book of Genesis points out that it took well over 100 years to build.


Wait wait wait...that's even more incredulous. So a bunch of geriatrics were building this huge friggin ship, then stocked it with enough food to feed millions of species for over a month, got them onto this ship without them eating each other, and then boned their crusty old asses off and somehow were able to repopulate the earth with ancient eggs?

I mean, every other old book of myths is obviously an allegory and no one has a problem with that. Why are the Jewish myths so special?

If you accept it as an allegory it actually increases the possibility that it's actually based on some actual event and not woven out of whole cloth.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:53 pm to
quote:

I advise people to take Jesus's death, burial, and resurrection as highly literal and accept his payment for sin.


The Gospels can't even agree what time of day Christ was crucified.


Now, where did Cain and Abel find wives?

Did Adam have a navel?

When God said, "Let us make man in our own image", who was he talking to?
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