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Posted on 11/12/20 at 8:57 am to
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
16247 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 8:57 am to
Sorry for you and your Pug. If it were me, I'd make the tough decision to put her down when the time comes and not put her through the surgeries and treatments.

I see your screen name has "latx" in it. The vet's name doesn't rhyme with Killer does it?
This post was edited on 11/12/20 at 9:01 am
Posted by YankeeDoodle
Member since Mar 2013
524 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 9:17 am to
I had a 6 year old dog diagnosed with cancer. It was either put him down right there or give him a surgery that would give him estimated 6-9 months to live with quality of life. I was pretty devastated and opted to do the surgery as it was my first dog and I just wanted more time. Needless to say, he went downhill quickly and we had to put him down about 2 weeks after the surgery.

In hindsight I would have just put him down at the diagnosis, but I dont regret anything I did. Losing a pet sucks. I feel for you.
Posted by pizota13
Addis, La
Member since Feb 2013
185 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 9:24 am to
LSU vet school Oncology department is amazing. My baby had lymphoma. He went through chemo for two years. It prolonged his life for an additional two years. Without the treatment, he would have only lasted another couple of months. Supposedly, it is not painful for our fur friends. Now, I do not know if I would do it again, but at the time, it was my only choice. It is very expensive. I pray that you find comfort in your decision. I am sorry. Its an almost no win situation. I do, however, recommend LSU Oncology. They are amazing
Posted by 91TIGER
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2006
17742 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 9:43 am to
We lost our 9 yr old last year to cancer. She got sick for a couple days and wouldn't eat. Took her to the vet and found large tumor and she was seriously anemic to the point of death. Had to put her down. She went from great pet to gone in 3 days. I feel for you brother !
Posted by latxwoman
Member since Mar 2019
750 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 10:06 am to
quote:

I see your screen name has "latx" in it. The vet's name doesn't rhyme with Killer does it?


No, the vet is in BR. Not sure who you are referring to-
Posted by latxwoman
Member since Mar 2019
750 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 10:10 am to
quote:

LSU vet school Oncology department is amazing. My baby had lymphoma. He went through chemo for two years. It prolonged his life for an additional two years. Without the treatment, he would have only lasted another couple of months. Supposedly, it is not painful for our fur friends. Now, I do not know if I would do it again, but at the time, it was my only choice. It is very expensive. I pray that you find comfort in your decision. I am sorry. Its an almost no win situation. I do, however, recommend LSU Oncology. They are amazing


Thanks for this. Pugs only live 10-15 years. She will turn 13 in Feb. She's had a good life and has a heart issue that complicates surgery. She had surgery at 10 and spent 2 days in ICU at Sherwood. Not sure I want to go through that again. TBH, not sure she would survive the surgery-- much less Chemo.

I believe I will just give her car rides and endless treats until the end. Thanks.
Posted by Tiger in the Sticks
Back in the Boot
Member since Jan 2007
1437 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 10:20 am to
We were in a similar situation with our lab a couple of years ago. She was 12 and had an abdominal mass. They said if it was cancer, she’d probably live six months. If it wasn’t, it would probably be a year. They could have done surgery to confirm diagnosis, but it wouldn’t change her prognosis and she would spend part of her time left recovering. We opted not to do the surgery...she lasted a year. The vet told us we would likely know when it was time as she would decline rapidly, and that’s what happened. I don’t regret the path we took at all. Miss her terribly.
Posted by misterc
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2014
700 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 10:37 am to
First off sorry to hear and hope all goes well for you and your pup

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trying to sell me all sorts of other care while she was under to have the tumor removed. - Teeth cleaning,


This is not a good idea, when you clean a dogs teeth you flush bacteria into their bloodstream. I know they need their teeth cleaned and the risk of doing another separate procedure could be high but my vet refused to remove a tumor and clean teeth at the same time due to the heightened risk of infection.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 10:47 am to
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Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
8710 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 10:59 am to
Animals are stoic and continue to amaze me. One had a paw that she simply lifted off the ground and was running around on three legs. We took her to the vet, he saw a problem, medicated and put in a drain. That paw healed, to the point that she then ran on four legs. As she aged, I had to trim her claws, and I could tell that that paw was still sore for her, something I hadn't noticed in the intervening ten years.

I hate that our pets get cancer and I even more hate greedy vets .
Posted by caro81
Member since Jul 2017
4955 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 11:55 am to
Hello latx,

Disclaimer: this is not official veterinary advice, just suggestions

has your vet done a chest radiograph and if so what did it show? if they did not, they really should. my second step would be to do a lymph node aspirate and histopathology and cytology of the nodes closes to the tumor.

distal (far part) limb melonoma can be quite aggressive. if it had spread to other areas already i would recommend just having a good time with your beloved pup and call it when it needs to be called.

if it has not spread to other areas then i would recommend limb amputation. You said they recommend paw, personally i would not do that and remove the entire limb. I know that seems pretty radically but animals get along just fine quickly with loss of limb. it ensures you get everything that may have tumor cells.

As far as long term survival, if it is completely removed the animal will be essential that same as before. her/his life expectancy wouldnt change. ive seen pugs that are 20 years old.

What ever decision you make, just remember its not a wrong decision, just the decision you decided. Do what you think is best for your pup.

edit: If you do decide to go forward with perusing treatment, id suggest getting a referral to a specialist in your area or LSU. Keep in mind, LSU wont be cheap. I find it unsettling your current DVM is suggesting teeth cleaning and other BS in face of a more dramatic health issue.
This post was edited on 11/12/20 at 11:58 am
Posted by ChenierauTigre
Dreamland
Member since Dec 2007
34535 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 2:38 pm to
Many, many years ago my dog got cancer. We did everything we could to try to save him. What we ended up doing was torturing him to death. It has haunted me every day since then and I hate myself for it.

That is my experience.
Posted by caro81
Member since Jul 2017
4955 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 2:51 pm to
its a hell of a disease. i dream of the day that we develop the technology to effectively treat it.
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
16995 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 2:53 pm to
My lab was almost 9 when she was Dx with cancer.... she was having abdominal swelling (ascites). Did exploratory surgery and vet said cancer was everywhere so I just asked if he would close her back up and keep her pain free til I could get off work and say goodbye.... hardest thing to do for a dog lover but I didn’t want her to suffer
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
10323 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 2:56 pm to
Very sorry to hear this. Sending you and your sweet dog prayers.
Posted by Loungefly85
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2016
7930 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 3:11 pm to
I’m at the vet now getting a lump checked on my lab/collie mix. This is not the thread I wanted to read today.

Sorry about your ol gal.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56105 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 3:11 pm to
I have had animals all my life and, when the end of their life nears, I regret not putting them down sooner 100% of the time. I always keep them around too long out of pure selfishness. Since your pup seems to have lived a long and happy life, I’d recommend to euthanize him sooner rather than later to avoid him suffering. Regardless of what people tell you, I don’t believe that you can readily tell when a dog is suffering until it is too late.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98330 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 3:22 pm to
Our lab was about that age, developed a lung tumor. Vet went over the options, none of which she recommended She said no dog she had ever put through any heavy chemo treatment had done well on it. We opted for palliative care, which consisted of prednisone, something to control the cough, and one or two other things. He lived five months, most of which was pretty good quality of life. Up until the last few days he enjoyed going for walks. Sometimes we had to coax him to eat, but he was always a bit picky about his food.

One thing to keep in mind is that dogs are mobile animals. If they lose their ability to move around like they want to, their quality of life goes way down.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98330 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

I have had animals all my life and, when the end of their life nears, I regret not putting them down sooner 100% of the time. I always keep them around too long out of pure selfishness. Since your pup seems to have lived a long and happy life, I’d recommend to euthanize him sooner rather than later to avoid him suffering. Regardless of what people tell you, I don’t believe that you can readily tell when a dog is suffering until it is too late.


+1. You can tell in hindsight, not always in the moment. Dogs are such stoic creatures, they don't let you know they're suffering unless they're in serious pain.
Posted by twizzy
north east
Member since Feb 2013
175 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 5:32 pm to
Sorry to hear of your dogs cancer.We had to put down our 7 year old German Shepherd today she had a tumor on her spleen and after surgery it all fell apart.

If you think you can do it both emotionally and financially then buy yourself every second you can with your pup as long as no suffering is involved.

I am unashamed to say that I am a bawling 55 year old baby today and miss my little girl hope you find peace with whatever you decide to do.
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