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re: DOD releases the MOAB video
Posted on 4/14/17 at 11:29 am to AbuTheMonkey
Posted on 4/14/17 at 11:29 am to AbuTheMonkey
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We only had a couple of options, and the MOAB was one of them. Sending in an ODA to seize a position like this would have been the height of stupidity and a tremendous waste of military resources.
it was 3 tunnels and 36 terrorist, plus munitions. Are you telling me, this was the best option for use of resources? We have a limited supply of these, they are extremely expensive as well. I realize its fortified, but come on man, we go up against far more than this routinely. This was a shock and awe display for ratings.
Again, I have no problem with using large expensive weapons when they are used for comparable targets.
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Posted on 4/14/17 at 11:30 am to TigerstuckinMS
You know your shite, mister.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 11:31 am to NYCAuburn
... and you don't.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 11:31 am to GEAUXT
Shouldn't these bombs be used more around Kandahar and the southern region?
Posted on 4/14/17 at 11:32 am to NYCAuburn
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it was 3 tunnels and 36 terrorist, plus munitions. Are you telling me, this was the best option for use of resources? We have a limited supply of these, they are extremely expensive as well. I realize its fortified, but come on man, we go up against far more than this routinely. This was a shock and awe display for ratings.
Again, seriously, do you realize how difficult it is to dislodge people from a fixed position? Multiply that times ten for being in the side of a mountain.
We absolutely do not go against this with any sort of regularity. Not at all. 999 times out of 1,000, if we're attacking fixed positions (and not being ambushed), it is a house, and a JDAM does the job.
I don't think you can picture in your mind what this is really like, but you're not getting it.
This post was edited on 4/14/17 at 11:33 am
Posted on 4/14/17 at 11:41 am to AbuTheMonkey
I believe the Brass involved in the decisions know one hell of a lot more than the fricking SNOWBIRDS on the OT
Posted on 4/14/17 at 11:41 am to NYCAuburn
It's a show of force. It's sending a message that even if you dig in and try to fight, we can still kill you with very little effort. It also shows off our arsenal to the world (N. Korea) just to give them a little something to think about.
We used 1, it's not like we dropped then en masse.
We used 1, it's not like we dropped then en masse.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 11:44 am to AbuTheMonkey
Generally you would need 6 people for every 1 entrenched.
That's because the numbers dictate a bunch of yours will get smoked by theirs.
Then you have to deal with a steep assed mountain whilst people are shooting at you from prepared positions and that have the ranges doped in.
Then you have to deal with something going wrong, because something ALWAYS goes wrong.
The use of a MOAB is perfect here. The concussion would have killed anyone in those tunnels. And, again, the use of the MOAB here was I think more directed at North Korea rather than the unlucky recipients. All the better we killed some bad guys.
***ETA, I fricking directed this at the wrong dude.
That's because the numbers dictate a bunch of yours will get smoked by theirs.
Then you have to deal with a steep assed mountain whilst people are shooting at you from prepared positions and that have the ranges doped in.
Then you have to deal with something going wrong, because something ALWAYS goes wrong.
The use of a MOAB is perfect here. The concussion would have killed anyone in those tunnels. And, again, the use of the MOAB here was I think more directed at North Korea rather than the unlucky recipients. All the better we killed some bad guys.
***ETA, I fricking directed this at the wrong dude.
This post was edited on 4/14/17 at 11:45 am
Posted on 4/14/17 at 12:07 pm to Jobu93
True
But their weapons and resources and tunnel needed to go
But their weapons and resources and tunnel needed to go
Posted on 4/14/17 at 12:12 pm to NYCAuburn
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You dont think a manned forced could have done this as well?
Why the frick would we ever put boots on the ground if we didn't have to?
Posted on 4/14/17 at 12:15 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Crazy to think the magnitude of nuclear power compared to conventional. This is the biggest conventional bomb we know of ever built, but the original nuclear bomb from WWII was significantly more powerful
Russians have a bigger bomb I think. But it's a different breed I think. FAOB
Posted on 4/14/17 at 12:30 pm to NYCAuburn
Probably was a strategic cache/staging area. It's destruction will disrupt their operations for quite a while.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 12:33 pm to GEAUXT
I've seen MOAB videos before. Honestly they are always under-whelming.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 12:46 pm to GEAUXT
Posted on 4/14/17 at 12:47 pm to NYCAuburn
You're still having to blow the tunnels even after you extract the men in them if you send our guys in there.
This was probably the cheapest option.
Not to mention the chance that it staves off elevated conflict with NK, which would cost as well. An ounce of prevention and all that.
And anyway, we already spent the money on these things, might as well use them to blow up some terrorists and make fat boy shite his pants.
This was probably the cheapest option.
Not to mention the chance that it staves off elevated conflict with NK, which would cost as well. An ounce of prevention and all that.
And anyway, we already spent the money on these things, might as well use them to blow up some terrorists and make fat boy shite his pants.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 12:53 pm to lsucoonass
Exactly right. Sometimes getting at their logistics (which this bomb was targeting) is even better than killing a bunch of fighters.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 5:16 pm to PetroBabich
Just a reminder the CIA built these tunnels. Carry on with the jerk fest.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 5:17 pm to AUCE05
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Just a reminder the CIA built these tunnels. Carry on with the jerk fest.
Go lick Goldennuggets balls.
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