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re: Do some people really not see the difference in Sterling vs. today's tragedy?

Posted on 7/17/16 at 7:09 pm to
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 7/17/16 at 7:09 pm to
White people get killed by police as often as black people...why don't they protest, riot, and cheer on the death of police?
Posted by PygmalionEffect
Member since Jul 2012
4834 posts
Posted on 7/17/16 at 7:17 pm to
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White people get killed by police as often as black people...why don't they protest, riot, and cheer on the death of police?



Of course we know the answer to that rhetorical question.


But there is actually a non bullshite question.



Why aren't we protesting in the streets for opportunist black on white violence to rob a restaurant or to rape?


That's an actual question that maybe white people aren't comfortable asking themselves right now.


Maybe we just don't care enough about each other. Too busy having a good time swimming or catching fish.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35256 posts
Posted on 7/17/16 at 7:36 pm to
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I don't know what the line is as far what cops are willing cover ups. I just know that past history says that if they want they can get away with basically anything.
Do you think that stuff isn't covered up in crime ridden communities? Considering how much trust they have in law enforcement, I would say absolutely.

So, let's throw out the history of the individuals who were killed. Even though we know for a fact that Sterling was convicted on multiple offenses. Setting that aside, there are obvious differences in the situations.

We can say we know for a fact what the intentions were of the individual who killed BR police. We know what the intentions were of the individual who killed the Dallas police officers. They wanted to kill police officers plain and simple. They didn't know who they were killing. They didn't know the names of the cops. They didn't know the history of the cops. They just wanted to kill cops. One of them wanted to kill white cops.

For the officers who shot Sterling, you can say you THINK they wanted to kill him. You can say they were murderers, but you don't know. Evidence is and can be presented for both sides. And it will be continually. Not only that, Sterling was in the immediate process of committing a crime. He was given opportunities to comply. There was no fatal assault on him until later. He was tased before he was shot and he CONTINUED to not comply.

Even in a best case scenario with Sterling given the benefit of the doubt, looking only at facts, there is a massive difference in the two.

There have been 8 police officers who have been murdered in the past week or two with the killer knowing absolutely NOTHING about who he was killing. There is a HUGE difference in the two. One of the people we know for a fact is a violent child molester also. Look at facts, bro. Don't assume. That's what these cop shooters did.
This post was edited on 7/17/16 at 7:40 pm
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20443 posts
Posted on 7/17/16 at 7:44 pm to
It's real easy for us to say what should and shouldn't have happened with Sterling, from the comfort of our homes. Put yourself in the position of the cops.

He was not a small dude. He had a history of resisting arrest. He was carrying and didn't want to get fricked with much less arrested.

I don't know if what they initially went to him for was warranted or not. But I do know that if you or I was in that situation and you see this big dude reaching for his pistol, it might cross our mind to shoot first too. It's not that he was black and they were white. That's what the general dumbass consensus wants to believe. Not saying that racism doesn't exist. But this is also not Mississippi Burning in the 50's either.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35256 posts
Posted on 7/17/16 at 7:48 pm to
It's like, we can say "Sterling was a child molester". And he says "Well those cops could have been child molesters". LOL. It's like speaking to a child. There may be no hope...
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18981 posts
Posted on 7/17/16 at 9:26 pm to
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It's like, we can say "Sterling was a child molester". And he says "Well those cops could have been child molesters". LOL. It's like speaking to a child. There may be no hope...


Why don't you read next time. My point is that it makes no difference whether or not they were bad people or good people. If they were killed unjustly
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35256 posts
Posted on 7/17/16 at 9:42 pm to
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Why don't you read next time. My point is that it makes no difference whether or not they were bad people or good people. If they were killed unjustly
1) There are only opinions on whether or not sterling was killed unjustly. Evidence points in both directions. You may disagree with that, but it's true.

2) Even if Sterling was unjustly killed, which I don't necessarily agree with, a known child molester (fact) being killed "unjustly" after being tased (fact) resisting arrest (fact) attacking police officers (fact) carrying an illegal gun (fact) pointing it at people (fact), is not as bad as police officers being targeted and shot for responding to a call or police officers being sniped out.

There's a difference. I refuse to believe otherwise.

Even if you believe Sterling was unjustly shot, these attacks are 10 times worse. There's no other explanation.
This post was edited on 7/17/16 at 9:48 pm
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 7/17/16 at 9:50 pm to
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Alton Sterling was a drug dealer who resisted arrested while being illegally armed and was justifiable killed by police.

These four/five officers were killed in cold blood in response to a false narrative perpetrated by institutions in this country.


Why didn't "our" President state that first obvious fact?

What conclusions can we reach based on the fact that he didn't?
- he wants cops to die
- he wants unrest

He's a fairly smart man. He could have done his part to prevent this. He did pretty much the opposite.
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