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re: Cross dressing/transexual/gay/bi agenda
Posted on 4/27/15 at 10:39 pm to joeleblanc
Posted on 4/27/15 at 10:39 pm to joeleblanc
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So a guy who bangs sheep should have equality too? He isn't hurting anyone...
Awful argument, SHEEP CAN'T SIGN CONTRACTS.
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Posted on 4/27/15 at 10:41 pm to joeleblanc
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So a guy who bangs sheep should have equality too? He isn't hurting anyone...
Sheep can't give legal consent to sex with a human. That one is easily swatted away.
Jake88 at least brings up some interesting philosophical points. I have to go buy groceries before the store closes at 9 here, but I will try to come back and continue this discussion
Posted on 4/27/15 at 10:43 pm to Jcorye1
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Awful argument, SHEEP CAN'T SIGN CONTRACTS.
Awful counterargument. Sheep don't sign contracts to be sheered or slaughtered but those farmers are treated equally.
I'm not agreeing that gay sex is on par with bestiality, but this "can't give consent" is a poor counterargument. When do they ever give consent to our use of them?
This post was edited on 4/27/15 at 10:47 pm
Posted on 4/27/15 at 10:43 pm to joeleblanc
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So a guy who bangs sheep should have equality too? He isn't hurting anyone...
This dumb argument comes up every single time, and I love it.
Might as well say "Hey! Look at me! I'm am idiot!"
Posted on 4/27/15 at 10:45 pm to Jcorye1
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Awful argument, SHEEP CAN'T SIGN CONTRACTS
Its a great counterpoint. It was said:
As long as they don't hurt anyone, should they be denied equality?
So, with that being said, the sheep banger isn't hurting anyone. So, doesn't he have the same equal rights?
Posted on 4/27/15 at 10:45 pm to Kafka
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you are actually equating opposing the presentation of transsexualism as a healthy and positive lifestyle choice, with racism?
I'm not really sure which one you're trying to say is worse...
Posted on 4/27/15 at 10:46 pm to joeleblanc
Mike Vick running dog fighting rings doesn't hurt anyone, should he be allowed to do it?
Posted on 4/27/15 at 10:46 pm to TigerBait1127
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Might as well say "Hey! Look at me! I'm am idiot!"
Well i'm looking right at you
Posted on 4/27/15 at 10:49 pm to Jake88
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Awful counterargument. Sheep don't sign contracts to be sheered or slaughtered but those farmers are treated equally.
Good god, the sheep can't consent, and sex without consent is rape.
Merp.
Posted on 4/27/15 at 10:50 pm to joeleblanc
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Its a great counterpoint. It was said:
As long as they don't hurt anyone, should they be denied equality?
So, with that being said, the sheep banger isn't hurting anyone. So, doesn't he have the same equal rights?
No it isn't. First off, it is essentially a slippery slope fallacy.
Second, the next fallacy is that it equates a decision between 2 consenting adults to a situation where consent cannot occur. That should be obvious.
In no way is it a valid or "great counterpoint". It defies logic.
Is philosophy not taught at most high schools and colleges around the country?
This post was edited on 4/27/15 at 10:51 pm
Posted on 4/27/15 at 10:52 pm to Jcorye1
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Good god, the sheep can't consent, and sex without consent is rape.
Merp.
Wow! Rape?
So…
Good god, the sheep can't consent, and slaughter without consent is murder.
Merp.
And...
Good god, the sheep can't consent, and shearing without consent is battery.
Merp.
This post was edited on 4/27/15 at 10:53 pm
Posted on 4/27/15 at 10:52 pm to Jake88
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I'm not agreeing that gay sex is on par with bestiality, but this "can't give consent" is a poor counterargument. When do they ever give consent to our use of them?
The use of animals for meat and various by-products is a debate for another time. You can go to jail for abusing animals, killing endangered ones, and fighting them. There are groups for and against the issues.
The bigger issue is why the hell are you guys comparing homosexuals to sheep?
Posted on 4/27/15 at 10:55 pm to Jcorye1
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The bigger issue is why the hell are you guys comparing homosexuals to sheep?
Read my posts, I didn't.
I'm agreeing with you that gay is not on par with bestiality, in fact you quoted my post that said so. I'm saying the consent argument is no good when it comes to animals because they don't ever consent to anything we do to them.
This post was edited on 4/27/15 at 10:56 pm
Posted on 4/27/15 at 10:57 pm to Jake88
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Good god, the sheep can't consent, and slaughter without consent is murder.
Merp.
There is a different debate. I think most would agree that killing animals for food is acceptable.
Doing what those Tulane kids did to the goat or what Michael Vick did is not a acceptable. I'd consider having sex with an animal abuse
Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:02 pm to joeleblanc
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oeleblanc
So what's your point there in bringing up equality when comparing it to sheep sex?
Are you saying that gay sex should be illegal?
Or are you saying that gay marriage should be illegal?
Or are you saying something completely different?
Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:07 pm to TigerBait1127
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So what's your point there in bringing up equality when comparing it to sheep sex? Are you saying that gay sex should be illegal? Or are you saying that gay marriage should be illegal?
The point I made was that sheep sex doesn't hurt anyone, so does that guy have the same equal rights?
Sodomy IS illegal.
And YES, I am saying I am opposed to same-sex marriage.
Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:15 pm to joeleblanc
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Sodomy IS illegal.
First of all, it's not illegal everywhere. Secondly, you're really telling me you want to be taken to jail for watching a redtube video of some girl blowing a guy or taking it up the arse? Is that the world you want to live in? Think about this, Joe.... EDIT: I should say instead, do you want your girlfriend/wife and you to be arrested after she blows you or takes it up the arse?
This post was edited on 4/27/15 at 11:19 pm
Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:18 pm to go_tigres
I know people are ripping on ya....but I feel the same as you do about ABC family and all this gay garbage. Enough is enough
Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:20 pm to joeleblanc
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And YES, I am saying I am opposed to same-sex marriage.
And now I think even Jake would agree that the false equivalency fallacy is stronger due to consent.
You can't enter a contact with an animal, you can enter one with another person.
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Sodomy IS illegal.
Some states keep the law on their books, but it isn't enforceable and the Supreme Court ruled it unconstitutional
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Lawrence v. Texas, 539 U.S. 558 (2003) is a landmark decision by the United States Supreme Court. In the 6–3 ruling the Court struck down the sodomy law in Texas and, by extension, invalidated sodomy laws in 13 other states, making same-sex sexual activity legal in every U.S. state and territory. The Court overturned its previous ruling on the same issue in the 1986 case Bowers v. Hardwick, where it upheld a challenged Georgia statute and did not find a constitutional protection of sexual privacy.
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The Court held that intimate consensual sexual conduct was part of the liberty protected by substantive due process under the 14th Amendment. Lawrence invalidated similar laws throughout the United States that criminalized sodomy between consenting adults acting in private, whatever the sex of the participants.[1]
This post was edited on 4/27/15 at 11:26 pm
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