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re: Cpap-sleep apnea technology has a huge tech cheaper change

Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:12 pm to
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:12 pm to
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The DME is not allowed to sell a device without Dr’s orders after a sleep study.

There can be side effects from a cpap device everywhere from gastric distention to possibly barotrauma from pressures.. It also causes a decrease in venous return, so it can cause issues for pt’s with hypotension.

It’s not like cold medicine.


So from what I’m gathering, it’s like a prescription strength flesh light that snoring dudes strap on their face?
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11465 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:14 pm to
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I use a CPAP and have been considering a new sleep study since it has been over 10 years since the last. I also suspect my old machine is not putting out as much as it should.

With the newer technology, you dont even set up the output on it? How does it know what the output should be? I'm confused.
Autos are set for a range, instead of a set pressure. The machine uses sensor to measure back pressure and advance computer algorithims to adjust the pressure, both up and down, to keep the airway patent. If you have obstructive sleep apnea and are on an auto, you are always getting the correct pressure. The eliminates the need for a restudy. Let's say your pressure needs change because you are now 10 years older, gained weight, LOST weight, etc. The machine adjusts the pressure based on what is needed, therefore your apnea is always being treated.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11465 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:17 pm to
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Eta I don't understand the science behind it all but I imagine too much pressure is a bad thing.


Correct. Too much pressure can easily kick you into central sleep apnea. Instead of an obstruction that is causing you not to breath, the brain gets tricked into not sending the signal for you to breath.
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
5368 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:23 pm to
Apnimed AP109 to the rescue next year. Phase 3 trials staring soon. I hate my cpap and will be first in line for their medication. Been watching this company for a couple of years now.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45798 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:23 pm to
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you may actually need a bipap
Anything that snugs up to my face better not be bi.
Posted by Relham10
Ridge
Member since Jan 2013
15671 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:24 pm to
Thanks for sharing. I did the sleep study in their facility for a night then went back with my machine to adjust the PaP setting. A year or so later my machine was on recall for possible cancer causing reasons. I had the Phillips Dreamstation
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11465 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:24 pm to
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Sleep apnia affects people of all shapes and sizes. You would be surprised the people who have it.


No shite! Age is a major factor, as well as anatomy surrounding the airway. I'm near several military bases. Tons of guys getting ready to retire and have sleep apnea.
Posted by AlextheBodacious
Member since Oct 2020
1479 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:29 pm to
Very similar to hearing aids. You don’t need an audiologist to tell you how much you need to hear. The machines can do it all for you.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11465 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:31 pm to
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There is a YouTube vid or FAQ on how to bypass the settings of almost every machine on the market.

A little learning is a dangerous thing- Alexander Pope

Some people think "if 10 is good, then 11 is better", then go google how to get into the clinical settings. What they don't know it, to much and you can make things worse. All they know is some of their symptoms have come back and attribute that to "muh pressure needs to be turned up". Most don't have any idea of how many different factors could be causing this, then do something that makes it worse.
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4441 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:34 pm to
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Can't you just lose weight? Like I've never heard of a skinny or fit person having to connect themselves to oxygen to sleep.


I was 5’11” and 145 my freshman year of college and everyone on my floor could here me snore. My CPAP machine has completely changed my life. I was so tired and couldn’t really remember anything. 2 hours on the machine is better than 8 hours without it.

I know that a lot of people have obstructed breathing bc of WeChat, but there are a lot of people that simply need these machines to live normal lives
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11465 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:35 pm to
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Apnimed AP109 to the rescue next year. Phase 3 trials staring soon. I hate my cpap and will be first in line for their medication. Been watching this company for a couple of years now.
I'm old enough to remember when UPPP surgery was the cure. Whole lot of people got all cut up, went thru horrible recovery for weeks, ...... only to make things worse.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
5935 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:36 pm to
resmed cpap not auto that I bought after covid wound down. It was my third one. they get pretty ratty after 5 years of every night use. The Resmed auto, priced at 650 is priced a couple hundred dollars cheaper than the one 2-3 years ago
This post was edited on 8/25/23 at 11:18 pm
Posted by ugasickem
Allatoona
Member since Nov 2010
10797 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:39 pm to
I bought mine outright on this. Did sleep study at home with monitor, then then it was gonna goat about 10 grand. I was like frick no. Set me up on the automated shite. I sleep fine now.
Posted by ugasickem
Allatoona
Member since Nov 2010
10797 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:45 pm to
You’ll probably have to do a sleep
Study. Unless you want Herpes from
A black market junked up used one. But I can get a new ones through my insurance if you want to breath through the same one greatness has breathed through, you can buy mine, but it’ll cost you! I’ll autograph it!
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
5368 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:50 pm to
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I'm old enough to remember when UPPP surgery was the cure. Whole lot of people got all cut up, went thru horrible recovery for weeks, ...... only to make things worse.


Let me know where you read the word cure in my comments dumb arse. This isn't surgery either. Can you read? You know Apnimed is about to hurt your business. Just a matter of time now.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
5935 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:56 pm to
Glad to hear from you, where ya been the last couple years. You do realize that after 25 years in the field technology has moved on and you are technically obsolete. What got me started this week was my wife going to a sleep lab to start the process requiring at home testing because of mobility issues. All okey but then they said the second test had to be done at their lab which had no mobility accommodations. Kinda obvious that could not be done so the proposed alternative was to prescribe an auto titration cpap.

Please review my post to understand that I recommend not using Insurance because it's cheaper and and a whole lot less hassle to buy it direct. All of my machines have had sd cards over the last 15 years. The first one was read one time to generate an insurance report, the second machine sd card was never read and had to be replaced after 4 year because it was full of useless never read data.

Maybe you could learn to code
Posted by ugasickem
Allatoona
Member since Nov 2010
10797 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:57 pm to
I’m not that unhealthy lol, but sinus issues made snore. Pretty much stopped breathing a lot during sleep study a lot. This was the at home sleep
Study where you hook your own shite up and and sleep. That cost a lot of money, but they got a good idea, and then they were like come to the come stay at a hospital for a night, so we can figure out what setting we need to put you on on the cpap. Don’t fall for that shite. Tell them you want the automatic one. Paid for that outright. 750out the door. Vs 10k for another sleep
Study in hospital.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48859 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:59 pm to
I have a Dreamstation2 I’ll sell. I quit using it and it’s only 2 years old.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33506 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:59 pm to
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Good to know. I keep waiting for mine to die, but it's been rock solid for years.


How old is yours?

I used mine almost every night for about 6 years and started to notice that I was almost feeling like I felt before I started using the CPAP in the first place. I was drowsy by 10am again.

My CPAP was one that got recalled and the replacement finally showed up...and sure enough when I started using the new one, I started to feel refreshed again.

Point being--it "seemed" like my old CPAP was working fine. It sounded the same and felt like it was putting out enough air, when in reality it was crapping out on me

If you have had it over 5 years, it may be time for a new one.
Posted by selfgen
youngsville
Member since Aug 2006
1042 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 11:02 pm to
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. I also suspect my old machine is not putting out as much as it should.


What a terrible thing to say about your old lady!
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