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re: Cpap-sleep apnea technology has a huge tech cheaper change

Posted on 8/26/23 at 8:06 am to
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11465 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 8:06 am to
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After using it a few months, I decided to increase the minimum pressure to what my average pressure was. Found the instructions on the internet. A few weeks later I started experiencing vertigo.
The way you have to look at it, is like this. If your doctor prescribed you some kind of medication for a condition you have, would you disregard the dosage and frequency and just take the amount of pills you thought you need?

I have family practice and internal med docs write scripts for CPAP all the time. 80% of them just have "cpap" wrote on the script. Now I have to go fill out a generic Rx, find the pressure from the sleep study that resolved the sleep apnea 95% of the time, put all of this information along with all the doctor's information, send it to them and hope he gets around to signing it one day and gets it back to me.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11465 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 8:10 am to
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Please do tell about the new technology. Explain how an Auto SV works. BiPAP AVAPS. BiPAP ST.

You’re out of your depth spouting about something you know nothing about at all. APAP is great for someone with low to moderate obstructive sleep apnea. It does absolutely Dick to anyone with any amount of central apnea. In fact, it can make central apnea far worse.

But hey…we need to catch up to technology….


If anyone ACTUALLY wants to know about the various machines and why an APAP won’t just fix everyone, feel free to ask.
Nailed it!!
Posted by martiallaw
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
1455 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 9:03 am to
Can you recommend a specific brand/machine CPAP? My Doctor just game me one from a patient that had recently died so he never picked it up. No idea of settings? It does seem to work but it seems like an older model. The difficulty was actually getting a CPAP company to respond to me. They kept saying my insurance wouldn't cover but it does. Also not fat 5'10 185
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
3121 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 9:08 am to
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How old is yours?
It's 8 years old. I had it retested/adjusted by a sleep doctor maybe 3 years ago. He didn't detect any issues with it and as far as I can tell it's rock solid. It's a Philips Respironics System One REMstar SE.

It looks like online suppliers recommend changing every 5 years. I'll talk to my PCP about it.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
5934 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 9:08 am to
well dude sex with a cpap is stimulating. The machine matches your breathing rate/heart rate with a great flow of air/oxygen for greater performance.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30404 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 9:24 am to
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Can't you just lose weight? Like I've never heard of a skinny or fit person having to connect themselves to oxygen to sleep.




I know at least 3 people, one of whom is extremely fit, who have struggled with sleep apnea despite not being overweight. The fit guy had surgery to remove some of the soft tissue near the back of the mouth/throat, the other two use a CPAP, as do I but I am fat .

However, my wife wanted me to look into a CPAP when I was not fat, I just put it off for a long time. She always said I would stop breathing sometimes at night when I was still in shape and thin.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
5934 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 9:27 am to
Well goose, lets pursue your Lowe's analogy a bit further

Take a trip to your local Walmart Supercenter, the audio/visual media center and find a control module less complex than a cpap. There is not one except maybe ear buds.

Take a look at a 7 year olds child playstation and find it has far more computing power and user interface than a cpap.

Take a look at a 2023 car dashboard interface both engine control and media and you will find more computing power and user interface than a small refinery built 30 years ago.

The technology has changed forever, and the user population has evolved as well

A common technique for selling overpriced service is the fear of failure and death. But think of how many apnea people get priced out of the market do to high service costs and die also.

Time move on
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
16232 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 9:28 am to
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Can't you just lose weight? Like I've never heard of a skinny or fit person having to connect themselves to oxygen to sleep.


It’s far less common but it does occur.

One of my kids is 6 foot 2 and only weighs 180 lbs and he has sleep apnea. Tonsils are out already and his snoring was awful from childhood. He was requiring 10-12 hours nightly to be able to wake up rested.

He got a sleep study and wears a CPAP. He can sleep 7 hours and feels great. Came off his ADHD medication as well.

It’s not just fat people.
Posted by Salamander_Wilson
Member since Jul 2015
7689 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:08 am to
I was diagnosed with Central Sleep Apnea a year ago and my journey to fix it has been extremely frustrating.

First I did a home sleep study where it was determined I had CSA.

Rx’s an APAP with a variable range. Didn’t work, actually slept worse.

Next they tried various constant pressures. All the while I’m getting worse sleep.

They have me do an in-lab sleep study. Worse sleep I’ve ever gotten and I’m sure the only viable info one could get from it was this guy is now out $750.

All the research I see seems to say I need an ASV since I have Central Apnea and not obstructive, yet my Respiratory Therapist says I can’t get one through insurance unless I go through all these steps.

Currently in limbo because I can’t bring myself to use the APAP that I know isn’t working and I physically dread putting it on as I feel like it is suffocating me.

Any idea if it’s possible to bypass insurance and buy an ASV machine? And if using one without monitoring by a professional is potentially dangerous?
Posted by Contrary
Nashville
Member since Dec 2019
1084 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:40 am to
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LoneStar23
try not to be an idiot 24/7. My brother is 6ft 180 and has sleep apnea.

While you think people need to lose weight to get rid of sleep apnea, why dont you try to increase your iq above 80.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
5934 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 12:07 pm to
A follow up to the fear mongering thought, I googled ear bud ear infection and got 25 plus pages , ten references per page regarding the perils of ear infection due to wearing ear buds. Ear buds could be more dangerous than cpaps
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