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Could AI Eventually Mimic People Who Have Passed Away?
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:20 pm
This idea came up from the recent NCIS episode (yes I'll admit I'm one of those weird people who still watches some of the episodes, lol). The episode was a situation where there was self sustaining AI that was guiding military drones.
While that part of it was scary, there was one part of the story that I found fascinating. In the episode there was the wacky Elon Musk type character who had created AI that could literally mimic the voice of his dead son and how he would react. During the episode he was testing the AI with a woman who had passed away.
Obviously AI is nowhere near that currently, but could we actually get to the point where AI could realistically mimic a person who has passed away? I know some people would say it's cheating death. I wouldn't go that far, the actual person is still gone, but it's still a memory they can interact with. Some people would no doubt say it hurts the ability for people to move on. Like you ever truly move on from a loved one. You learn to live with it, the pain gets less, but you don't move on.
How many of us wish we had a voice recording from a loved one? How many of us wish we could hear a loved one's voice one more time? How many people literally save voicemails because it's the last time they heard a friend or family member's voice?
Of course for something like this to be accurate it would have to be done before the person passed away. The AI would probably have to record days and days of conversations included individual conversations to understand how the person interacted with various people. It would be a time consuming process to say the least.
Of course something like this would be stupid expensive at first. Most likely reserved just for the Elon Musk's, Bill Gate's and Jeff Bezo's of the world. But if it became more commercial and available would you do it? Would you try to get an AI version of a loved one developed before they pass away so that you would have it after their death? Would you buy one for yourself so that in some way you do live on after your physical body has died?
How much would you pay? Would you give up an entire inheritance to have an AI version of a loved one?
While that part of it was scary, there was one part of the story that I found fascinating. In the episode there was the wacky Elon Musk type character who had created AI that could literally mimic the voice of his dead son and how he would react. During the episode he was testing the AI with a woman who had passed away.
Obviously AI is nowhere near that currently, but could we actually get to the point where AI could realistically mimic a person who has passed away? I know some people would say it's cheating death. I wouldn't go that far, the actual person is still gone, but it's still a memory they can interact with. Some people would no doubt say it hurts the ability for people to move on. Like you ever truly move on from a loved one. You learn to live with it, the pain gets less, but you don't move on.
How many of us wish we had a voice recording from a loved one? How many of us wish we could hear a loved one's voice one more time? How many people literally save voicemails because it's the last time they heard a friend or family member's voice?
Of course for something like this to be accurate it would have to be done before the person passed away. The AI would probably have to record days and days of conversations included individual conversations to understand how the person interacted with various people. It would be a time consuming process to say the least.
Of course something like this would be stupid expensive at first. Most likely reserved just for the Elon Musk's, Bill Gate's and Jeff Bezo's of the world. But if it became more commercial and available would you do it? Would you try to get an AI version of a loved one developed before they pass away so that you would have it after their death? Would you buy one for yourself so that in some way you do live on after your physical body has died?
How much would you pay? Would you give up an entire inheritance to have an AI version of a loved one?
This post was edited on 4/15/24 at 12:23 pm
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:23 pm to TheMountaineer
There's a Black Mirror episode about this... I certainly think it's possible but extremely psychologically damaging
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:23 pm to TheMountaineer
They already did it for Tupac and Michael Jackson years ago. Had a virtual image of them performing live on stage with live audience.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:23 pm to TheMountaineer
voicemails, photos, videos, keepsakes, and memories are enough for me. Anything past that would be way too weird for me.
This post was edited on 4/15/24 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:26 pm to TheMountaineer
Yes depending on how much access it had to a person’s life. Considering we’re uploading a ton online about ourselves, AI could easily emulate our personality and character.
In fact, there is (are) a Tik Tok influencer who has uploaded her voice to an AI program and then gave it access to her posts and profile. You can pay to have conversations with her.
In fact, there is (are) a Tik Tok influencer who has uploaded her voice to an AI program and then gave it access to her posts and profile. You can pay to have conversations with her.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:27 pm to TheMountaineer
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yes I'll admit I'm one of those weird people who still watches some of the episodes, lol
only some? don’t lie.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:27 pm to TheMountaineer
We can already create pretty realistic deep fakes and make holograms of dead people do things the real people didn't do while they were alive. Doesn't seem that farfetched to train those programs on large language models.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:28 pm to Bama Bird
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There's a Black Mirror episode about this... I certainly think it's possible but extremely psychologically damaging
I definitely see the pros and cons to it. There's definitely a psychological effect and I could see the moral argument being that people would use it as a crutch and would never true "move on" or accept that the person has truly died. But on the other end I think it would help a lot of people accept that the person has gone. I think it would truly make losing a family member or friend a more bearable process.
I know this isn't the first time this type of discussion has come up, but with AI for the first time it feels relatively achievable.
It hits at home for me because my dad is 79 and my mom is 75. Obviously the technology won't be there most likely before they pass, but especially for my mom I'd absolutely give up an inheritance to save an AI version of her that I could hear and talk to. It truly would be a new worls and psychologically there would be no way to know how it would truly impact people until it's actually available and used.
I guess the real question is, if/when it does become possible, is it something you would do for a loved one? Is it something you would do for yourself so that your husband/wife, children or other family members have an AI version of you to interact with? Or would you be too concerned about a psychological impact?
This post was edited on 4/15/24 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:31 pm to TheMountaineer
quote:Wanna bet?
Obviously AI is nowhere near that currently
quote:I have many of my father's voice mails. Almost wish I didn't because they span a time frame sufficient to hear the progression of dementia.
How many people literally save voicemails because it's the last time they heard a friend or family member's voice?
quote:No on all accounts.
But if it became more commercial and available would you do it? Would you try to get an AI version of a loved one developed before they pass away so that you would have it after their death? Would you buy one for yourself so that in some way you do live on after your physical body has died?
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:32 pm to TheMountaineer
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I guess the real question is, if/when it does become possible, is it something you would do for a loved one? Is it something you would do for yourself so that your husband/wife, children or other family members have an AI version of you to interact with? Or would you be too concerned about a psychological impact?
I wouldn't trust myself with it- I'd just end up withdrawing even more than I already do and waste away with something that doesn't even exist.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:37 pm to TheMountaineer
It already does.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:43 pm to Bama Bird
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There's a Black Mirror episode about this
Been a while since I've watched BM. Wasn't one of the first things that woman did when she put together that replacement robot was frick it?
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:45 pm to TheMountaineer
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Could AI Eventually Mimic People Who Have Passed Away?
The grieving process is hard enough already without adding this to it.
And to answer your question, most definitely yes, A.I. will be used to artificially prolong lives in the future. Though I'm not concerned about prolonging the life and memory of Aunt jenny, Wait until someone like Hitler gets ahold of it.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:57 pm to TheMountaineer
Yes, i heard Johnny Cash sing the Barbie song recently.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:46 pm to Funky Tide 8
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photos, videos
Those are hard enough.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:48 pm to TheMountaineer
Didn't Bruce Willis sign up for this not too long ago?
Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:57 pm to TheMountaineer
Already happened.
"Lost Songs of the 27 Club".
"Lost Songs of the 27 Club".
Posted on 4/15/24 at 2:04 pm to TheMountaineer
NPR just had a person on their program of a group doing concerts with dead musicals they did Tupac a few years ago. Quite interesting.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 2:04 pm to TheMountaineer
Yes. Isn’t that something Musk talked about with Neuralink downloading the brains of loved ones before they go?
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